[Vwdiesel] ATF as an additive???

[Chuck Carnohan]

I agree that Marvel Mystery Oil is good stuff.  I've used it for many
years in different applications.  I had a Chev. Vega in College that
burned oil like an Iraqi.  I would add some Marvel every tank and it
would greatly reduce the oil consumption.  It is a long lasting
lubricant for applications that you might otherwise use 3-in-1 oil.  As
an oil additive it is supposed to do good things as well.  When it burns
it leaves a white lubricative residue.  However, it does not burn well.
One can easily overwhelm a gas engine by pouring the stuff in the
carbruetor.  I have tried it in diesel as an additive as well.  I
noticed marked reduction in performance and white smoke (Marvel's
signature).  I'm sure it would be good for the injector pump and the
valves on occasion. I wouldn't recommend using Marvel with every tank.
It has it's applications in lubrication and is great to keep around the
shop!  I doubt that you could fill your pump with it and start the
engine.  I've never tried it but perhaps Nando will give it a go and let
us all know!

Chuck in Idaho

Once again, I tell the list what I have used forever, and it does not
have 
any friction modifiers.  It is available anywhere and it is cheap.
Marvel 
Mystery Oil.  It has the consistency and color of ATF.  My Audi's pump 
stopped leaking with a dose of it.  Honestly So! (the slogan)



Fernando Fiore, "Nando"

84 VW Rabbit Diesel "GTI"
1/4= 21.249 @ 60.95mph

81 Audi 5000S Diesel
1/4= N/A





>From: "Doyt W. Echelberger" <Doyt at NWOnline.Net>
>To: "Gerry Wolfe" <gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca>
>CC: Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] ATF as an additive???
>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:45:26 -0500
>
>Hello Gerry.....I admit to being one of the ATF users, but I don't
>recommend it, and I don't use it regularly....only about once a year,
for a 
>specific reason: Several times in the past 3 years my turbodiesel
injector 
>pump displayed a leak that dribbled fuel out of the little rubber
nipple 
>that empties the turbo boost enrichment module of the pump (upper right
top 
>of pump, standing ibn front of bumper facing the engine.)
>
>A quart of ATF in the fuel tank caused the gaskets/O-rings/whatever in 
>the
>pump to swell up enough that the leak totally stopped. The fix lasted
about 
>a year, and then I had to do it again. So, it is a one-tank trip with 
>whatever unfavorable additives that arrive with the ATF.
>
>My injector pump still works after several such fixes, and I haven't 
>had to
>have it rebuilt yet, which is the only other way I know of to stop a
leak.  
>I figured that the worst case would be that the ATF wouldn't work and I

>would being paying 300-400 for a rebuild anyhow, so why not try it?
>
>I'm sure the fix will only last about a year on my car, and I will have

>to
>do it again, and I'm not sure how many times the pump will respond in a

>positive fashion to the swelling agent, or how long it will take for
the 
>friction additives to cause some damage, so the test continues.
>
>I will report the results annually.
>
>I do admit to using the 2-stroke oil now and then, but more as an
>experimental thing, just to see if I can detect any benefits.  I have
been 
>using "PowerServices  DieselKleen + cetane boost" in almost every tank
this 
>winter. Seems to make the engine start and run a little smoother, or
allows 
>me to imagine such a result. Who knows? I should probably get a TDI and
put 
>my poor old Jetta out to pasture. Gad, what an incredible car that has 
>been. It deserves an honorable retirement.
>
>Doyt Echelberger
>Ohio   USA    85 Jetta TD
>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>At 10:51 AM 2/10/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>>I'm seeing people recommending use of ATF as an additive to diesel 
>>fuel...
>>prob'ly as a "good thing" for the pump and/or injectors.
>>
>>My understanding is that ATF contains additive(s) to increase 
>>friction,
>>prob'ly for the torque convertor or whatever.  Wouldn't this defeat
the 
>>purpose?
>>
>>What about using 2-stroke oil mixed with Stanadyne, equal ratios.  
>>Seems
>>to me the 2-stroke oil would be a better choice.  Ashless, designed as
a 
>>lubricant, yadda yadda.
>>
>>Just my $0.02Cdn...
>>G.