[Vwdiesel] homemade valve compressor
pmdolan at sasktel.net
pmdolan at sasktel.net
Sun Nov 28 01:33:20 EST 2004
Even though you can get away with straight press-in, press-out, it is definitely not a good thing to do. The heads gall the head bore a little bit every time you press through.
The correct way to remove a bronze guide is to "core" drill it first. I am not home (in China now), so cant run out to the shop to check the size, but I just use a US size drill bit just about 0.020 in. on the diameter under the OD of the guide. I think it is 7/16 of an inch for VW - you will know you have it too big if the pressing land made by the coring bit breaks out. Chuck it up in the lathe (or even a drill press) and grind a pilot into the centre at the tip (a short length of 8 mm dia). Using a die grinder, knock all of the sharp edges off of the flute of the pilot, and then grind a bit of free angle into the flat land to make a cutting edge.
Run the coring bit within 10 mm of the end of the guide (from the chamber side for guides with a shoulder or from the valve cover side for straight guides (not w/c VW).
Then you need to make up a press tool (or even a driving drift if you dont have a press) that is just under the coring diameter, and shove the shell out. When the load is put on the bottom of the guide, which is little more than a very thin wall tube by now, it will shrink and come out easily with absolutely no damage to the guide bore in the head.
Pushing on a complete, full diameter guide from the same end that has to go through the head will expand the guide in the bore, and maybe even upset a bit or flare the end where the press tool is incontact, and will/can do severe damage. This is why in the old air-cooled days, you could buy guides in several oversize ODs - a LOT of mechanics just pounded the crap out of them and did a pile of damage.
Hope that is of some help
Pat
----- Original Message -----
From: Marcel <mygroups at websworld.org>
Date: Thursday, November 25, 2004 10:45 pm
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] homemade valve compressor
> LBaird119 at aol.com wrote:
>
> > Drilling and maching guides is cast iron work (domestic V-8's
> and such).
> > Most aluminum have silicon bronze or phosphorous bronze (I
> think)
> > guides, which are generally press in and out. Cast ones neeed
> drilled,
> > pressed, shaped and reamed. If you have the tool that fits all
> the way
> > down the guide, when you press or drive then in, then reaming
> very
> > well may not be needed as the tool holds the dimension.
> Otherwise
> > you need an 8mm reamer. I've found that you use a good
> lubricating
> > oil for the intakes and something very light or dry on the
> exhausts.
> > You want the exhaust guides a tad more loose than the intakes to
> > start with.
> > I can see why you'd test with a new valve. The exhaust stems
> > wear. Most that I've checked were tapered to .003" of wear.
> Not
> > much of a test of the guide with a valve like that!
> > Loren
>
> Well at least if they're tight with an old valve, you're in the
> clear.
> If they are loose... then try a new valve to find which is worn.
> Usually
> the guide first though, in case of bronze guides which are
> generally
> softer than hardened steel valve stems.
>
> Marcel
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