[Vwdiesel] TDI injectors

Wed Apr 13 17:33:35 EDT 2005

Actually, the '02 Jetta set is supposed to be brand
new.  

Does this change your thoughts at all?

David

--- James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:

> I don't know David.  If they fit, they should be
> usable, but you want the
> spray pattern checked first.  Myself I would go with
> new, or better yet, get
> the 02 injectors complete, and send them to be
> calibrated properly while you
> use your old ones.  I know that is sort of the money
> is no object course,
> but changing used injectors for used injectors
> really doesn't blow my skirt
> up, regardless of the circumstances, unless of
> course you own both sets and
> know the history of the used set.
> -James
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Cook [mailto:vwdieselbunny at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2005 9:10 AM
> To: James Hansen; diesel list
> Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] TDI injectors
> 
> 
> Hi James-
> 
> I was just wondering if I could buy the injectors
> that
> were purchased for an '02 Jetta TDI from a list
> member
> to use in the '96 Passat TDI as an alterative to
> getting anything from Kerma?
> 
> Would those go straight in, or would ECU changes
> need
> to be made?  I guess the break pressure is a tad
> higher.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David
> 
> --- James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:
> 
> > Well, if you tell them what they are for, I would
> > assume they know what is
> > needed... He's been doing this for a long time,
> and
> > well.  However, break
> > pressure isn't necessarily slavishly required to
> be
> > the same in all
> > instances once you start monkeying with schnozzle
> > orfice size flow rate and
> > such. Once the nozzles get bigger, you could in
> > theory reduce the pressure a
> > tad to increase the duration and retard the
> > injection pulse initiation point
> > to compensate for the shorter injection time the
> > bigger holes provide you
> > with. Dunno for sure, just speculating... but
> > Kerma's the dude to know this
> > if anyone does.
> > -James
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vwdiesel-bounces+jhsg=sasktel.net at vwfans.com
> >
>
[mailto:vwdiesel-bounces+jhsg=sasktel.net at vwfans.com]On
> > Behalf Of David Cook
> > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:16 AM
> > To: diesel list
> > Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] TDI injectors
> >
> >
> > Thanks James.
> >
> > Yeah, I was looking at the link.  I had originally
> > looked at the upgrade nozzles that were actually
> > about
> > $30 cheaper than the stock replacement ones.  With
> > those upgrade nozzles, I'm sure I would need to
> > upgrade the settings in the ECU with VAG-COM.
> >
> > Now, if those nozzles are sold for all '96-03
> TDIs,
> > am
> > I safe in assuming that injectors that were bought
> > for
> > a ~'02 Jetta would work on the Passat?  The seller
> > (someone on this list) thought their breaking
> > pressure
> > might be slightly (~10 lb?) higher than on the '96
> > Passat's engine.  Said that might actually be
> > better,
> > with better fuel atomization.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Surely not here:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.kermatdi.com/Store.asp?m=KermaTdi&n=14&k=2551&s=How+to+install
> > > If it's the stock replacement injectors,
> > >
> > > You are looking at the link to Fred's webpage I
> > > assume.... those
> > > instructions are for going to larger injectors,
> if
> > > you use these:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.kermatdi.com/Store.asp?m=KermaTdi&n=10&k=107688&s=TDI+Nozzles+%27
> > > %2796%2D%27%2703+%28VE+pump%29
> > > They are a direct replacement, and require no
> ecu
> > > adjustments.  Only when
> > > you get to the bigger ones do you need to change
> > > some stuff.  If you want to
> > > keep working on TDI's, eventually you will get
> > > Vag-Com.  It's really an
> > > asset to the toolbox.
> > > -James
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: David Cook
> [mailto:vwdieselbunny at yahoo.com]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:37 AM
> > > To: James Hansen; diesel list
> > > Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] TDI injectors
> > >
> > >
> > > Hmmm-
> > >
> > > I noticed that the instructions given on that
> page
> > > state that you have to change some things with
> > > VAG-COM.
> > >
> > > I don't have it, and doubt I could talk dad into
> > all
> > > that...  I might have to look for a set of stock
> > > nozzles.  We'll have to see.
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > --- James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:
> > > > Go here:  http://www.kermatdi.com/
> > > >
> > > > Choose from these:
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://www.kermatdi.com/Store.asp?m=KermaTdi&n=9&k=10965&s=TDI+Nozzles+%2796
> > > > %2D%2703+%28VE+pump%29
> > > >
> > > > They work very well. Just what you want,
> install
> > > on
> > > > a saturday afternoon,
> > > > instructions are all on Kerma's pages etc...
> > > >
> > > > Then if you want to make so much power the
> stock
> > > > clutch will slip when you
> > > > walk on the throttle, get a tuning box from
> > > Hayden.
> > > > It will make you smile.
> > > >
> > > > -James
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From:
> > vwdiesel-bounces+jhsg=sasktel.net at vwfans.com
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
[mailto:vwdiesel-bounces+jhsg=sasktel.net at vwfans.com]On
> > > > Behalf Of David Cook
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:52 PM
> > > > To: audi-vw-diesels at yahoogroups.com; diesel
> list
> > > > Subject: [Vwdiesel] TDI injectors
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hey all-
> > > >
> > > > My dad says he's been getting about 42 MPG in
> > his
> > > > Passat, which is okay, but seems a tad low
> > (though
> > > > it
> > > > is probably still winter fuel, so maybe
> not...)
> > > >
> > > > With 175,000 miles, I'm wondering if the
> > injectors
> > > > are
> > > > maybe getting worn out, and contributing to
> the
> > > > lower
> > > > mileage.
> > > >
> > > > So, I'm wondering about getting them spiffed
> up.
> > > >
> > > > Could I just buy a set of new nozzles, etc and
> > > > install
> > > > them on the injectors and know that they will
> be
> > > > brought back up the the proper breaking
> > pressure?
> > > > Or
> > > > is there more to it than that?
> > > >
> > > > It will have to be something that can be done
> on
> > a
> > > > saturday afternoon, so removing them and
> taking
> > > them
> > > > in to a shop for testing would be difficult.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > David
> > > >
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