[Vwdiesel] when is it cold enough to use anti-gel diesel additive?

[82 Diesel Westy]

Thanks Chuck, I was under the impression that
"winterized fuel" ment that they cut more of the
sulfar additives out that causes polution or
something, not that an additive has been added to
prevent the fuel from geling.  I could be wrong.

This is for my TDI PD "BEW" motor, not 1.6na, but I
know what you are saying about pump lube in fuel, the 
Marvel Mystery Oil does that best, but not cheap.

This all started on Sat. when the car would not start.
I thought is was frozen fuel, possibly.
The Jetta TDI wagon just got back from the dealer
where they had to burn (download) a whole new engine
managment program into the car to get it to start and
add a ground wire to the computer harness in the
engine compartment.

Service Bulletin C 97-04-05, no start when wet or hard
start, extended cranking.
The car did not show signs of needed this, no codes
were generated, it just would not start.

Anyway, it runs fine now?  Dam computers.

Bryan
--- Chuck Carnohan <Chuck.Carnohan at itd.idaho.gov>
wrote:

> Bryan,
> Some of us use the stuff year-round for other
> reasons.  I use the Power
> Service brand from WallyWorld- Cetane boost,
> lubricant, anti-gel.  It is
> inexpensive and I've had no problems with it.  I
> also put about a cup of
> 2-cycle oil in the fuel additive (Thanks Roger
> Brown) to make sure the
> injection pump is getting lubed.  The old 1.6L NA's
> were designed and
> built for the old diesel fuel pre-emission control. 
> So, today's diesel
> does not have the lubricity of yesterday.  There is
> much diatribe in the
> archives about fuel additives for lubricity~  Hagar
> in the lead!
> 
> The diesel you buy this time of year should already
> have additives to
> prevent gelling.  Adding the available juices to
> your store-bought fuel
> only makes it better for your engine, helps clean
> the system and, lubes
> the pump and valves.
> 
> Another good additive is Marvel Mystery Oil- Amazing
> lubricating
> properties and comparatively inexpensive.  The stuff
> leaves a
> lubricating film upon combustion too!  Really good
> in old gassers that
> tend to foul plugs.
> 
> I worked for a grass farmer (golf course variety)
> when I was a kid.  He
> ran swathers w/Wisconsin air-cooled engines.  He
> kept a 50-gallon drum
> of Marvel in the fuel pump shed, adding the stuff
> gas at fill-up
> religiously.  He swore that it reduced the need to
> rebuild these engines
> by 200%.  Slippery stuff before and after
> combustion.
> 
> Chuck Carnohan
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com
> [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com]
> On Behalf Of 82 Diesel Westy
> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 9:29 AM
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] when is it cold enough to
> use anti-gel diesel
> additive?
> 
> I was wondering at what temp do you guys spring for
> the bottle of anti gel fuel treatment and what brand
> do you like.
> 
> Thanks, I was 5 this morning and I did not get to
> put
> my block core heater in before the sh-t hit the fan
> here in NJ.  So, a 60 watt light bulb under the hood
> all night did help, but I am still afraid of gel.
> 
> Thanks, Bryan
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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> Bryan Belman, Pt Pleasant, NJ
> 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp
> Restoring 82 Diesel Weekender from my old rusty 82
> Westy 1.9NA
> 90 Audi 200, 2.2L Turbo FWD
> 70 Type 1 stock Beetle
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Bryan Belman, Pt Pleasant, NJ
04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp
Restoring 82 Diesel Weekender from my old rusty 82 Westy 1.9NA
90 Audi 200, 2.2L Turbo FWD
70 Type 1 stock Beetle