[Vwdiesel] Fuel 101 --- ( Hagar on Physicks and Chemistry. )

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Hagar,

In most power schemes that employ hydrogen as a so called 'fuel',  the
hydrogen is merely used to store an amount of energy and release it at point
of use, like a battery with way less than 100% efficiency in the conversion.
The original hydrogen in this case comes from a process that 'makes it'
through the use of burning fossil fuels to generate the power needed to
power the process that makes this hydrogen appear.  Wind and sunlight can
also be used to 'make' hydrogen (electrolisis of H2O) but in these cases one
is throwing away energy and would be better off using the power generated by
the wind or sun converter directly.  Yes you can strip hydrogen from
hydrocarbon fossil fuels with a process that requires additional input of
energy, but once again you are better off from a purely efficiency point of
view of burning the fossil fuel in your engine directly.  There is something
to this you aren't grasping.  You are not alone.

Rob

----- Original Message -----
From: "H . Hagar." <h_hagar at prcn.org>
To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2005 7:07 PM
Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fuel 101 --- ( Hagar on Physicks and Chemistry. )


HYDROGEN AS A FUEL ONLY MOVES THE POLLUTION FROM A LOCALIZED POINT AT
YOUR TAILPIPE TO THE POWER PLANT.  AND THE EXTRA CONVERSION COSTS
YOU MORE ENERGY THAN YOU WOULD HAVE ORIGINALLY HAD YOU BURNED THE
HYDROCARBONS.

  Here in Hagars Lair ----Rabbit Lair   --get it ?   we go by a different
textbook all together.

I do not know exactly who wrote the above --BUT it does NOT compute here.

First  ALL flammeable gasses  ---inclyding Hydrogen is considered a
EL   ----plus some
NON flammeable gasses are used as part of the FUEL-----cycle i.e.  O2
etc..

Hydrogen first :      The reason  it was chosen was a pollution issue.    We
here in the BC  have valleys
like the FRAZER    that traps pollution from industry and Cars -----when an
invertion takes place..
 Hydrogen can be stored (NO shelf life) and transported. ----And it is
infinite in supply.   (relative).

When did I first see Hydrogen demonstrated  ?    1944  Physics. .     Zink
granules were
put in an acid --forget the one Hydrochloric ?   or H2so4 ? .     The teach
said and I quote.

Q :  Hydrogen is NOT an explosive gas ---it is an IMPLOSIVE gas.. end of Q.

HYDROGEN ISN'T A POWER SOURCE.  IT'S AN ENERGY TRANSPORT SYSTEM.

" Bunny Bondo"  does NOT agree ----she said gimme a sniff at that liquid
Hydrogen
and I will show you POWER.  -----That kind of LOGIC is flawed  , because
that can be
said of Electricity and all kinds of power sourses.   SO it IS a source of
POWER in this context.

I started my FUEL experiments in 1945   ----BUT they really took off in
68   ----and yes Mark Shepherd.
Hagar does operate a small stil.  Made from a  Pressure Cooker.     Has
provcessed  a
hell of a lot of Hydocarbon fuel since January  1968.  ----I still got it.

Now many years later ---???---- enter   Canola ----Bunny Bondo say right on
I LOVE IT:

I do not use it for cooking anymore ---after discovering that it is GMO
stuff.       In Canada BC.
RIMINI Canola is NOT marked GMO.      ---- IT SHOULD BE    IMHO.

I now cook with a EU product ----they have a standard. BY LAW.

I went to vote at noon   ---the nicest voting in my life (I am 73)  and I
crawl on my knees if that is what gets
me to that BOX.   It was a small people school and the kids were playing in
front of the school
skipping ropes etc  ----and  ---LAUGHFING ----they were absolutely the best
clothed   best looking
well fed and HAPPY bunch of kids I ever saw-.---Garneu the astro guy came
from that school.

Does this relate to FUEL ?  ------bet your ass if you know Lenora and Sigrid
the crazy sisters ?

They made me vote ---GREEN. ------and I did.    (not really my cup of TEA)
BUT I   was
totally outpowered by those two.

Sigrid drives a Passat      gasser  -----They could not get the diesel in
Kalifornia where they got it.

It sure is one nice Chariot.  -----   NO I will NEVER   forsake Bonny Bondo
for  ANYTHING.

Hagar.

PS :      first GREEN ballot from me.       (Adriane Carr).
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