[Vwdiesel] Re: genset applications

[Area31 Research Facility]

James,

Thanx for the input.  I live NW of Toronto in a snowbelt and sure, I can
burn the WTF directly as fuel for an oil furnace to make much needed heat in
winter months.

So if I understand you correctly I would have to dilute the WTF quite a bit
with say home heating oil to get the carbon buildup problem under control.
Am I to understand then that using WVO one does not have the carbon and
injector coking problem?  If that is true then that is the direction I'll go
with the genset.

As for diesel additives to help lubricity with low sulfur fuel on the old FI
pumps you mentioned two stroke engine oil.  I picked some up today (it is
thin viscocity and blue color) to put in my new (to me) 1991 VW turbo diesel
jetta.  On my 1.5D generator engine I have used a litre of compressor oil
mixed with about 7 gallons of diesel fuel and the engine seems to like it.
The compressor oil is listed as a low ash oil formulated to dissolve and
prevent the formation of carbon deposits.  That sounded good to me.  It is
heavier viscocity too than the 2-stroke oil and slightly cheaper.  What say
you about using air compressor oil?  I got them at Wally Mart.  The 2-stroke
oil was about $2.40/litre. the compressor oil about $1.99.  This is quite
inexpensive compared to the $6+ charged for a litre of actual diesel fuel
conditioner.  Such savings if they work sound like a great idea to me!

Go ahead and say something funny about the BATF if you want...WTF. ;)

Rob

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Hansen" <jhsg at sasktel.net>
To: "VW-Diesel List" <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 2:43 AM
Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Re: genset applications


>
>
> -  That must be what the WTF does to these engines at 1800
> RPM.
> _______________________
>
> ATF does that at all rpm's .  That's why it is not recommended as an
> additive by those in the know. 2 cycle oil is good as an additive, but not
> tranny fluid. Roughly, the more specialized te oil is, the more and
> different the additives, and the more and different it's going to be to be
> able to use as fuel.
> Where you live?  does it get cold enough to burn for home heating?  That's
> the most efficient method of recycling anything that can burn at present,
> use the heat directly, not to provide a mechanical advantage.
>
>
>
>
> This was a huge disappointment to me as I was counting on using WTF as a
> main fuel for power generation here.  If the problem will clear by
diluting
> it with a small amount of diesel that would be better than nothing.  Maybe
> is is particulates in which it will be rich smaller than 2 microns that
are
> causing the carbon buildup.  If I have to build a vacuum distillation
plant
> to process my WTF that would take all the fun out of it.
> _________________-
>
> Wouldn't it though.  I doubt small amounts will alleviate it, some cetane
> boosters might, but IIRC the problem was part additive package and part
base
> hydrocarbons being too long. You could hydrocrack it.  You'd need a good
> natural gas supply then too in addition to the vacuum distillation tower.
> How big is your back yard?  You neighbors may say WTF, and they wouldn't
be
> talking about oil.
>
>
>
>  I have the option
> of going to WVO still but would have to modify my fuel handling equipment
a
> bit, but not if I can get used Canola that stays liquid.
> ___________
>
> Oddly enough, in the heart of canola country, it is rare to have liquid
> canola oil as fryer waste.  That's okay from the health standpoint, as the
> oil hasn't been hydrolized, (adding H2... AAAAUUUUGHHHthere's that damn
> hydrogen again), but it doesn't stay liquid as easily.
>
>
>
>
> If members here have any good technical ideas I would appreciate your
input.
> That BATF stuff was meant as a joke in case anyone isn't sure. ;)
>
> _____
>
> technical suggestions?  damn and here I was going to write something
> funny....
>
> oh well...
>
> -James
>
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