[Vwdiesel] Hagar's Digressions

Mark Shepherd mark at shepher.fsnet.co.uk
Sun Nov 13 15:58:45 EST 2005


I have to agree with you Andrew...
I know I am also a transgressor; but with the way the world is at the
moment  (and most on both sides of the pond affected to their detriment);
  its hard not to express a view which is invariably somewhat polarized.
However having looked at some of the sites that I used to frequent; but
gave up due to the off topic rants from some crazy people; I feel I must
not be part of downgrading this one from it's somewhat unique position
(that I've been able to access) of an extremely varied skill base.
This is the best site I've found for reaching a consensus to a problem that
may have never been solved before.
 Members here are not adverse to throwing the Bentley or Haynes into the
fire at times and pulling something different out of the ashes.
 Sometimes I have something to contribute and sometimes I don't and just
like to aggravate instead ;^)..
My greatest sadness is that no-one tried to have a pop at Blair in
retaliation. If anyone had; I'd have swum across the pond  and met up with
you and...
faced East and shouted alongside you.
If  I need to have a pop at our leaders in the future, I'll push it out on
the Wart list. Although its often  less crowded than shouting at a mirror
in a room at a mental asylum :o(
I make no promises abut my 'diesel' poetry though ;^p
"Let's keep it unique and on diesel cures"
" Hagar; lets make the effort make it a priority to cure everyone who comes
here with a diesel ailment; and keep it the best Diesel Encyclopaedia even
if it doesn't have the luxury of pictures...
Mark
----- Original Message -----
From: <Libbybapa at wmconnect.com>
To: <vwdiesel at audifans.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 5:41 PM
Subject: [Vwdiesel] Hagar's Digressions


> Well, this is a difficult, sad and awkward time on this list.  I have in
the
> past not felt the need to comment regarding Hagar's posts.  Now I do feel
the
> need.  I feel a fondness for Hagar, and have enjoyed some tidbits.  I
have
> also felt free to use the delete button if the comments seemed repetitive
or less
> than obviously relevent.  I think I probably have political and social
views
> more similar to Hagar's than many of the individuals on this list.
Despite
> that, I find the commentaries on politics and current events to be
entirely
> inappropriate on this list.  *Entirely inappropriate.*  This list has had
a very
> friendly and compassionate form of communication and comraderie.  I see
> absolutely no reason to comment regarding ANYTHING that would even
potentially upset
> or irritate anyone else on this list that is not directly and obviously
> connected to VW DIESELS.  Obviously religion, race, politics, current
events or even
> whether you take a shower in the morning, evening or once a week would
fall
> in that category.  That seems obvious to me and I am one of those Stupid
> Americans.  Further, there is nothing to be gained by such off-topic
rants for the
> individual or the group.  This is a group where the listees join for
their own
> enjoyment or information.  When it stops being enjoyable, they leave.
>
> There are e-mail forums that are designed for such discussions.  The
thing
> that confuses me is why they are posted here.  I have seen it commented
again
> and again "TAKE IT TO THE WART LIST!".  That would be aprropriate.  Here
it is
> not.
>
> Politically I think I probably agree more with Hagar than with Loren.  I
> don't know for sure because Loren has had the decency to keep his
political views
> primarily to himself.  Despite that, to have Loren leave makes me feel
ill.  I
> also find his leaving very reasonable.  I don't want to feel bad because
of
> an internet e-mail forum, that's not what it's about.  I personally will
not
> stick around to see all the other great individuals on this list leave in
> frustration.  The tolerance of the individuals on this list is a
resounding comment
> regarding their good nature.  Refardless tolerance is erroded with
repetitious
> offence.  I will stick around until I see One More significantly
off-topic
> rant and then I will be gone as well without further comment.
> Cheers.
>
> Andrew
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