[Vwdiesel] Hagar's Digressions

[Libbybapa@wmconnect.com]

Well, this is a difficult, sad and awkward time on this list.  I have in the 
past not felt the need to comment regarding Hagar's posts.  Now I do feel the 
need.  I feel a fondness for Hagar, and have enjoyed some tidbits.  I have 
also felt free to use the delete button if the comments seemed repetitive or less 
than obviously relevent.  I think I probably have political and social views 
more similar to Hagar's than many of the individuals on this list.  Despite 
that, I find the commentaries on politics and current events to be entirely 
inappropriate on this list.  *Entirely inappropriate.*  This list has had a very 
friendly and compassionate form of communication and comraderie.  I see 
absolutely no reason to comment regarding ANYTHING that would even potentially upset 
or irritate anyone else on this list that is not directly and obviously 
connected to VW DIESELS.  Obviously religion, race, politics, current events or even 
whether you take a shower in the morning, evening or once a week would fall 
in that category.  That seems obvious to me and I am one of those Stupid 
Americans.  Further, there is nothing to be gained by such off-topic rants for the 
individual or the group.  This is a group where the listees join for their own 
enjoyment or information.  When it stops being enjoyable, they leave.

There are e-mail forums that are designed for such discussions.  The thing 
that confuses me is why they are posted here.  I have seen it commented again 
and again "TAKE IT TO THE WART LIST!".  That would be aprropriate.  Here it is 
not.
  
Politically I think I probably agree more with Hagar than with Loren.  I 
don't know for sure because Loren has had the decency to keep his political views 
primarily to himself.  Despite that, to have Loren leave makes me feel ill.  I 
also find his leaving very reasonable.  I don't want to feel bad because of 
an internet e-mail forum, that's not what it's about.  I personally will not 
stick around to see all the other great individuals on this list leave in 
frustration.  The tolerance of the individuals on this list is a resounding comment 
regarding their good nature.  Refardless tolerance is erroded with repetitious 
offence.  I will stick around until I see One More significantly off-topic 
rant and then I will be gone as well without further comment.
Cheers.

Andrew