[Vwdiesel] No glow ....

[Derek]

Well first, everything seems to check out.  The fact that my switch turn on 
the relay and my gp's come on confirms all that.  I looked last night and my 
temp sensors are different ( and yup the third one's oil, duh ! )  They are 
different colours as well as the number of wires coming out.

In the upper rad hose near the head, there is one to the 10 o'clock position 
( it has two wires ) and the other is at the 3 o'clock position ( it has 4 )

I am gonna guess the two wire one ...

While I am at it, does anyone know where the glow timer module is located 
???


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Hansen" <jhsg at sasktel.net>
To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:43 AM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] No glow ....


> They (glow plugs) are never really hardly ever needed, don't fret with 
> that.
> they make summer starts more pleasant as well.
> Upper rad hose senders near the head- one is for the temp gauge, one is 
> the
> glow plug temp sensor.  they are identical, so test is to swap the plugs 
> on
> them.  If your temp gauge quits reading correctly, and the glow plugs 
> start
> to work correctly, it's the sensor.
> The light on the dash is only an indication of when to start the car, not 
> an
> indication of plugs being on or off. It's linked to the timer part of the
> relay, not the power to the plugs part. One can fail without the other
> knowing it.  Best diagnostic tool is still to have an indicator light 
> direct
> to your glow plug bus bar.  It will tell you beyond doubt if the plugs are
> on or not, and there are a hundred ways to do this, from dash lights to a
> light in the hood grill.
> -James
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com]On
> Behalf Of Derek
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:29 PM
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] No glow ....
>
>
> Yup, that's the motor and I think I may have solved the problem.  I'll try
> to confirm tomorrow.  I am sure its the glow plug temperature sender.  It
> makes perfect sense.  With my switch hooked up ( a wire literally is wound
> on the terminal that SHOULD be grounding to make the whole thing go like 
> its
> supposed to  ... ) it works fine.  So, I am simulating the ground that the
> relay should be seeing from the temp sender, but isn't.  I guess the light
> on the dash is also somehow connected to this sender ?  The great thing
> about all this, is the fact that now that I know how it is all wired and
> supposed to work.  I can hook up an intercept switch to prevent the GP's
> from turning on in the summer when they are hardly needed ....
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Libbybapa at wmconnect.com
>  To: weasel1 at sympatico.ca ; vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>  Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:42 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] No glow ....
>
>
>  If yours is the 1.9TD (AAZ) I imagine that your relay is the same as the
> 1.6TD relay and so the tests would be the same.  I do have the Haynes for
> that model/year, but it is on the shelf in the garage, and shucks, I'm in 
> my
> PJ's.  Tomorrow I'll check, if noone else kicks in first.
>
>  Andrew
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