[Vwdiesel] VW Diesel engine running too hot
82 Diesel Westy
dieselwesty at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 12 11:31:13 EDT 2006
Thanks Shawn for sharing, things seem about on par
then as my motor is 190na and may not work at hard at
the 1.6td in the heavy vanagon. I to have the proper
matched 300F VDO sender in the oil filter flandge.
That alone cost me $24 bucks, was not happy about
that, but could only find at CA imports.
Bryan
--- Shawn Wright <vwdiesels at gmail.com> wrote:
> My 1.6TD oil temps run about the same, except for
> extreme, long climbs, where I've seen up
> to 275F over Roger's Pass last summer, fully loaded.
> Last week's trip over the Coqihalla,
> which presents a 17km 8% grade, saw only 250F oil
> temps, probably due to less weight in
> the van and cooler weather. This is measured from
> the oil filter flange using a 300F VDO
> sender/gauge. I now have a Volvo 240 cooler, which I
> plan on installing, as I am not confident
> that a larger oil-water cooler will be enough given
> the diesel vanagon plumbing setup, which
> either unloads heat from the oil into the head, or
> reduces the coolant flow to the head, take
> your pick. I did install the stock aux water pump,
> and it does seem to even out the oil temps
> for a while, but once they go beyond 240F on a long
> climb, they just seem to spiral, and take
> a long time to come back down.
>
> I am running a stock (actual VW) coolant t-stat at
> 87C. Water temp is very steady except for
> long climbs, so it seems to work as designed. I have
> removed and flushed rad inside and out,
> and believe it to be working well enough, even
> though it has nearly 500k and 18 years on it. I
> know that I have some cavitation inside my water
> pump housing, so coolant flow may be
> down somewhat.
>
> On 6 Oct 2006 at 8:41, 82 Diesel Westy
> <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > So, from reading some of this is sounds like I
> should
> > be looking at the bigger oil cooler for my 1.9na
> in
> > the Westy. The one from an 1.9TD AAZ is bigger
> and I
> > have it.
> >
> > My OIL temps are running 220F <-> 240F depending
> on
> > the load of the engine cruising or mountain
> climbing
> > Trying to maintain highway speeds.
> >
> > Does anyone else have an oil temp guage on 1.6na
> or
> > 1.9na motor. My NEW VDO pickup is in the oil
> filter
> > flandge, BTW.
> >
> > Thanks, Bryan
> >
> > --- Rudy <petersenrudy at hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Make sure all the cooling system components are
> > > working properly, install an
> > > 87 degree Celsius Thermostat and run it. 195 to
> 200
> > > degrees F is not too
> > > hot.
> > >
> > > Rudy
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com
> > > [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On
> > > Behalf Of Sherwin Goff
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 05, 2006 5:44 PM
> > > To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > > Subject: [Vwdiesel] VW Diesel engine running too
> hot
> > >
> > > Over-heating:
> > > Here are the symptom:
> > >
> > > I have a very nice 83 Westy with the 1900
> engine
> > > and a 5 speed; however,
> > > it runs with the needle straight up or even a
> little
> > > to the right of top
> > > center. This is too hot. I do not like for it to
> run
> > > this hot. (My 82 also
> > > did this same thing, and I experienced early
> engine
> > > failure because of it.)
> > >
> > > Over and over again, I have checked this out
> at
> > > cooler times and in cooler
> > > climates. At those times the nettle always stays
> > > where it belongs--in the
> > > LITTLE BOX on the temperature gauge--to the
> left.
> > > This position is where the
> > > engine thermostat should normally keep the
> engine
> > > temperature. The
> > > temperature must be controlled by the
> > > thermostats--not by the radiator fan.
> > >
> > > I believe this is an engineering problem. I
> have
> > > had only one Diesel
> > > Rabbit that always ran inside the little box on
> the
> > > heater gauge. All of the
> > > rest of them have run much hotter than their
> > > thermostat. Overheating these
> > > engines is a number one cause for early engine
> > > failure.
> > >
> > > Is there a radiator capacity problem here? Is
> the
> > > radiator too small, or
> > > does the radiator have fewer fins than it needs?
> The
> > > problem is not the
> > > engine nor the thermostat. It has to do with
> > > cooling.
> > >
> > > My experience with all VW diesels (and I have
> had
> > > many) has been that they
> > > are IMPROPERLY ENGINEERED to run as cool as they
> > > should--else why do they
> > > all run hotter than their thermostat would
> otherwise
> > > allow?
> > >
> > > (Do ya'll understand what I'm trying to
> explain
> > > here?)
> > >
> > > So now here is my question:
> > >
> > > What has been your experience for SOLVING this
> > > problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all of you,
> > >
> > > Sherwin
> > >
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> >
> > Bryan Belman, Pt Pleasant, NJ
> > 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
> > 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :)
> > 92 Jetta Eco-Turbo Diesel -- not running
> yet <:>
> > 90 Audi 200, 2.2L Turbo FWD -- runs some
> times, need to sell :(
> > 70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running
> well :(
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> Shawn Wright
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> '88 Westy 1.6TD 5 speed
> '85 Jetta Diesel 1.6NA
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