[Vwdiesel] Relocating battery

Thu Jan 4 19:53:24 EST 2007

Mark,

how can i understand and apply what u said. 

dude, i am no nothing of electronics.

thanks for understanding my special needs.

yes, very warm here in Montreal - barely have snow.

evan
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> Ah yes I forgot the adverse weather conditions...
> Just had 2006 declared as 
> the warmest year on record over here!
> For interest:
> Skin effect
> At 100hz in a thick copper wire 12mm under the skin
> is 1/7th of the current. 
> Iron gives 1mm depth for reduction to 1/7th. weight
> for weight flat 
> conductive bar gives more current capacity than
> round. In the Mhz realm 
> current carried in less than 1/100th  of a mm  hence
> 10"+ hollow tube coax 
> for broadcast transmitters have walls  only a few mm
> thick... Poynting in 
> 1883 declared that the power was not actually
> carried in the wire but in the 
> media surrounding the wire... All part of the
> electrostatic  electromagnetic 
>   capacitive inductive thingy :o)
> Mark
> 
> >From: James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net>
> >CC: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Relocating battery
> >Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2007 13:54:35 -0600
> >
> >Well, here in the great white north, the price of
> used truck parts is
> >actually at a premium.  If you go to buy a battery
> cable for a 92 mack
> >from a wrecker, you get a 15 year old cable, with
> over a million miles
> >on it that will cost as much as buying new welding
> cable.
> >Cheap as chips would be referring to the insulation
> that has flaked off
> >from engine heat, and road debris causing erosion.
> >
> >Installing cable the length of the chassis that is
> in anything other
> >than perfect shape is setting yourself up for a
> terminal electrical fire.
> >-james
> >
> >The President wrote:
> > > Don't mess about with exotic car searches for
> battery cables. As I said
> > > before just get some cables from a scrapped
> truck; cheap as chips and
> > > does the job.... period.
> > > Mark
> > >
> > >> From: Evans Antoniou <ev32amd at yahoo.ca>
> > >> To: Tony and Lillie
> <tonyandlillie1 at earthlink.net>,
> > >> LBaird119 at aol.com,vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > >> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Relocating battery
> > >> Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2007 00:34:45 -0500 (EST)
> > >>
> > >> which modals from bmw had the battery placed in
> the trunk?
> > >>
> > >> i am in canada and i hope these modals were/are
> available here.
> > >>
> > >> thanks,
> > >>
> > >> Tony and Lillie <tonyandlillie1 at earthlink.net>
> wrote: >  I've been
> > >> going through similar arguments with Dad on his
> solar
> > >> > project.  Loss is loss and the longer you run
> a wire the more loss.
> > >> > More loss on DC than AC, the lower the
> voltage the higher the loss,
> > >> > with DC anyway, and the higher the draw the
> bigger wire needed.
> > >> Coiling
> > >> > wire would make the wire longer.  I suppose
> creating some back emf or
> > >> > such but that would only serve to cut the
> amount of power run through
> > >> > the wire rather than the amount available at
> the other end...  At
> > >> least I
> > >> > think so.
> > >> >  Simply use as big or one size bigger than
> needed and there you go.
> > >> > I've been trying to convince Dad it's not
> worth cutting up a welding
> > >> lead
> > >> > of the same size as some wire he has, simply
> to have the finer wire.
> > >> > (since electrons travel on the outside of the
> conductor I suppose it
> > >> > should
> > >> > carry more current but how much really?)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Well, in a word, a lot. I have some very fine
> silver coated 0 Guage
> > >> wire in
> > >> my 4KQ. Don't ask where I got it, I won't tell
> :) But, I used it for a
> > >> relocation under the back seat in the 4K. It is
> rated at 1600 Amps at
> > >> 18VDC.
> > >> Having done a voltage drop test in this car
> from all points, I get no
> > >> more
> > >> than .015VDC in any location.
> > >>
> > >> Onto the original subject, do you honestly
> think VW did such a great 
> >job
> > >> with the wiring? I really don't, as I've seen
> too many ground related
> > >> problems, even on low milage cars. I don't
> forsee any significant 
> >problem
> > >> with the relocation of the battery. As the
> diesel subject has come up,
> > >> Audi
> > >> still used the battery under the back seat in
> the 5000 Diesel. Single
> > >> battery setup. Oh, and getting cables from a
> wrecked car is a great
> > >> idea if
> > >> you are on a low budget. Another suggestion is
> BMW's, as several of 
> >their
> > >> models have had the battery mounted in the
> trunk.
> > >>
> > >> Tony Hoffman
> > >>
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