[Vwdiesel] Loren's Get together

Milt Kaplan teacher5257 at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 7 04:09:59 EDT 2007


Sorry I typed wrong name. It was Rudy that met up with me helped me out with the part.

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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Banjo hits sour notes (Justin and Michella Bennett)
2. Re: Welder? (Keith Family)
3. Re: Banjo hits sour notes (The President)
4. Re: Welder? (LBaird119 at aol.com)
5. Re: Welder? (raymond greeley)
6. Re: Welder? (Roger Brown)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:12:07 -0600
From: Justin and Michella Bennett 
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Banjo hits sour notes
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
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Yes. The pinhole is caused by the erosion of the line material by the 
fuel as it makes the turn in the bend. High pressure fluids that are 
moved by a piston type of pump seem to cause this more than fluids ran 
by rotary pumps. Unfortunately unless you own an ultrasound or x ray 
machine you cannot measure the amount of wear in the corners.
Justin

> Seems the 2nd from flywheel end metal line from the injection pump (85 Jetta TD engine) has sprung a pinhole leak where it turns to go into the injector. 

> I didn't expect a metal line to develop a pinhole leak. There wasn't any metal to metal tube rubbing. Biut the injector lines are missing the rubber separators, so maybe some vibration created a stress point. Anyone experience this kind of problem? 



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2007 14:58:41 -0400
From: "Keith Family" 
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Welder?
To: 
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For welding body panels, my preferred welder is a Lincoln SP-135 
with MIG. Hobart has a similar rig with the only real difference 
being one has plastic wire motor parts and the other has similar 
parts made of pot metal. (I forget which is which.)

I also own a 225 amp Lincoln "Buzz Box" (AC Welder) and I can 
attest that while I can stick things together (more or less) with 
this, I truly became a weldor (note the correct terminology) when 
I purchased the SP-135. You just can't see the puddle with an AC 
welder since the AC rods have so much shielding flash.

I preferred the Lincoln brand since my local welding store 
handles Lincoln and parts and supplies were readily available.

If you persist and buy flux cored wire for your welder, you will 
get better welding results using gas even with the flux core 
wire. There is something about the flow of gas which flattens 
and cools the weld and add materially to your welding skill. .

You'll know you're doing your best welding when you get that "fat 
frying in the frypan" sort of sound with a MIG. And for welding 
the real thin stuff with the finger trigger you can go 
spot/spot/spot/spot and guarantee you won't have a burn thru. 
And if you inadvertently do, you can go spot/spot/spot/spot and 
simply close it in.

I worked at a local farm and they have the Lincoln SP-125 which 
is an older version of the SP-135. Functionally (and probably 
internally) it is the same machine and these machines are readily 
available used on Craigslist or the WantAdvertiser at 
considerable savings.

I would tend to steer clear of Cambell-Hausfield, Century, 
Chicago Electric or any other of those aluminum wound transformer 
machines.

Happy welding,
Joe 


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 20:46:08 +0000
From: "The President" 
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Banjo hits sour notes
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
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So is the hole on the inside of the bend ... fatigue?
Or is it on the outside... erosion?
Mark

Even steam erodes pipes on bends!


>From: Justin and Michella Bennett 
>To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Banjo hits sour notes
>Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 11:12:07 -0600
>
>Yes. The pinhole is caused by the erosion of the line material by the
>fuel as it makes the turn in the bend. High pressure fluids that are
>moved by a piston type of pump seem to cause this more than fluids ran
>by rotary pumps. Unfortunately unless you own an ultrasound or x ray
>machine you cannot measure the amount of wear in the corners.
>Justin
>
> > Seems the 2nd from flywheel end metal line from the injection pump (85 
>Jetta TD engine) has sprung a pinhole leak where it turns to go into the 
>injector.
>
> > I didn't expect a metal line to develop a pinhole leak. There wasn't 
>any metal to metal tube rubbing. Biut the injector lines are missing the 
>rubber separators, so maybe some vibration created a stress point. Anyone 
>experience this kind of problem?
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 02:38:27 EDT
From: LBaird119 at aol.com
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Welder?
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
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In a message dated 7/4/2007 6:31:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
rgreeley2 at hotmail.com writes:

> Many older body men
> felt an oxy/acetylene patch was preferred.
> 

Only catch with oxy/acetlyene is heat/warping the panels.
You can surround the area with a wet rag and quickly wipe.
MIG will let you spot, spot, spot and not build up heat. I 
never tried flux core MIG. Since the standard is with gas then
there's usually a reason. ;-) Most MIG is with CO2 AFIK. TIG 
tends to use argon. Seems I've heard of some difference in 
why you'd use argon with a mig. Maybe it had to do with 
aluminum or such. I just don't remember the reasoning. :-P
Loren


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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 13:54:19 +0000
From: raymond greeley 
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Welder?
To: , "Vwdiesel at vwfans.com" 
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I felt like you that oxy/acetlyene introduced too much heat and just maybe this was an older method, while still
used, not as good as current tech.
I have used mig with fllux core and it was messy and weak.
I have seen many use mig with co2 gas with good results on metal fencing and wondered about the gas
type as some used argon over co2 and preferred it
they both produce a sheilded weld so is argon hotter
ray > From: LBaird119 at aol.com> Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2007 02:38:27 -0400> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Welder?> > In a message dated 7/4/2007 6:31:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > rgreeley2 at hotmail.com writes:> > > Many older body men> > felt an oxy/acetylene patch was preferred.> > > > Only catch with oxy/acetlyene is heat/warping the panels.> You can surround the area with a wet rag and quickly wipe.> MIG will let you spot, spot, spot and not build up heat. I > never tried flux core MIG. Since the standard is with gas then> there's usually a reason. ;-) Most MIG is with CO2 AFIK. TIG > tends to use argon. Seems I've heard of some difference in > why you'd use argon with a mig. Maybe it had to do with > aluminum or such. I just don't remember the reasoning. :-P> Loren> > > **************************************> See what's free at > http://www.aol.com.> _______________________________________________> Vwdiesel mailing list> Vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:01:01 -0700
From: Roger Brown 
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Welder?
To: "Vwdiesel at vwfans.com" 
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raymond greeley wrote:
> I felt like you that oxy/acetlyene introduced too much heat and just maybe this was an older method, while still
> used, not as good as current tech.
> I have used mig with fllux core and it was messy and weak.
> I have seen many use mig with co2 gas with good results on metal fencing and wondered about the gas
> type as some used argon over co2 and preferred it
> they both produce a sheilded weld so is argon hotter

MIG on steel can use CO2 shielding gas (runs hotter and not quite as clean, but 
inexpensive), or Argon (runs coolest and is most expensive) or a mix of 75% CO2 and 25% 
Argon for a good compromise. For sheet metal, the trick is not burning through, so you 
need the smallest gauge wire (like 0.020) and some sort of shielding gas, either the mix 
or pure Argon would work the best as they are cooler than pure CO2. Flux core tends to be 
even hotter than solid wire MIG, I think that is why they use flux core on the lower amp 
units, helps them weld thicker material (plus is is a less complex setup = lower cost 
welder).

-- 

Roger


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