[Vwdiesel] Overheat on uphills - help with diagnosis.
Terry Briggs
vbriggs at stny.rr.com
Fri Jun 22 16:46:53 EDT 2007
go to walmart and get one of those prestone radiator flush kits, cost
like $12 and do it yourself, might take you an hour once you get things
around.
On Jun 22, 2007, at 4:33 PM, Will Taygan wrote:
> Hmmm.. that's a good idea. The local radiator shop (not the oil change
> place, I don't trust them..) wants to do some type of pressure
> backflush
> for $140. I looked at radiators online ($100), but since it's a weird
> chassis/engine combo I think I want to buy locally in case it doesn't
> fit (napa probably), and they are running around $200.
>
> Any thoughts on radiator quality/brands? Could a flush work? I'd like
> to flush the engine and everything anyway..
>
> When I pulled the lower radiator hose the coolant came out in a slow
> steady flow. (1/2 gallon in 20-30 seconds) Is this normal, or should it
> whoosh out like on my other vehicles? Of course, I had the pressure
> cap
> on...
>
> I'd much rather change a radiator than a head gasket..
>
> Will.
>
>
> On Fri, 2007-06-22 at 11:47 -0700, rumple stiltskin wrote:
>> when is the last time you installed a new radiator or had that one
>> rodded out..
>>
>> very similar problemand that solved mine...teh problemis
>> now yours probably needs a new
>>
>> head gasket now...
>>
>> pics of my two diesel Rolls Kinnardly (s) attached...
>>
>> rolls down the hill and kin hardly make it up the next hill....(grin.)
>>
>> Will Taygan <william at taygan.com> wrote:
>> Arrgh! My first thought is head gasket, but I'm trying to
>> think of
>> other problems too.
>>
>> 1994 Jetta with 1.6TD, ACN tranny and Plantdrive-like vegoil
>> system in
>> Alaska.
>>
>> All last winter the heat would barely stay warm, temp pegged
>> just above
>> the 160F mark.
>>
>> Had the TD Injection Pump rebuilt last winter, shop returned
>> settings to
>> specs, previously they were turned down as it likes to send
>> black smoke
>> on moderate turbo acceleration (fueling turned back up).
>>
>> It always overheated on the long mountain passes, I assumed
>> from this
>> rich fuel and a weird tranny/body/engine combo.
>>
>> Water pump went out last winter, did not overheat, had a new
>> pump put in
>> at the neighborhood shop.
>>
>> I discovered the PO had cut a hold in the expansion cap, so it
>> doesn't
>> hold pressure. I switched out the cap for the one on the 91
>> ecodiesel,
>> so now it works.
>>
>> Installed a mostly Plantdrive SVO system, tapped a loop into
>> the heater
>> lines and forgot to fill the new lines with coolant (7th
>> vegoil
>> conversion, getting cocky.)
>>
>> Overheated on the highway, boiled over, got to a gas station,
>> spent an
>> hour with the expansion cap off pushing the acceleration lever
>> in and
>> out burping bubbles. Finally burped it all out.
>>
>> I put in Sierra coolant (propylene glycol - less toxic and
>> aluminum-friendly). I wondered if the shop put in regular
>> green
>> ethylene glycol, and thought maybe there was to high a
>> concentration of
>> antifreeze to water, so I drained the radiator by pulling the
>> lower hose
>> and put in distilled water.
>>
>> Bad idea. Overheated and boiled over again, added lots of
>> water and a
>> tiny bit of coolant.
>>
>> Car is now overheating (well, not boiling over, but between
>> 2nd and
>> middle tick, where usually it's below the 2nd tick) on the
>> flats,
>> significantly on hills (even just parked idling with the nose
>> up) and
>> cooling down on the downhills. I can drive to town if I crank
>> the heat
>> up to high and roll down the windows.
>>
>> No oil in coolant, no pressure in expansion tank in the first
>> minute of
>> startup, oil weeping from head gasket under #3 injector.
>>
>> Top radiator hose gets hard on acceleration, coolant dribbles
>> into the
>> expansion tank on acceleration, not burping anything
>> additional that I
>> can see.
>>
>> Could crap have blocked something when I cut into the system?
>> Head
>> gasket? Bad water pump? Radiator? Aargh.
>>
>> I have an 82 parts truck that I was going to pull the head and
>> bring it
>> into a shop so I don't have to leave the Jetta for a few
>> weeks, but
>> don't want to replace the head if that's not the problem.
>>
>> I can't do a compression test unless I remove the IP, since
>> the aneroid
>> block the socket on #2, but I need to do a timing belt anyway,
>> I'd
>> rather have a head ready to pop on, if that's the problem,
>> rather than
>> do the IP twice..
>>
>> Help!
>>
>> Will Taygan
>> Chugiak, AK
>> 81 1.6NA pickup
>> 82 1.6NA parts pickup
>> 91 1.6Ecodiesel Jetta
>> 94 1.6TD FrankenJetta
>>
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