[Vwdiesel] negative aspects of burning water

[Area31 Research Facility]

I read somewhere of a study that dtermined that a Hummer was less impactful 
on the environment (greener footprint over all) than a high tech hybrid 
because the Hummer is low tech and simple to manufacture, the hybrid 
involves much more energy intensive development and manufacturing processes 
because of exotic materials and processes.

Same sort of analysis could be done to a big box store like (name your 
favorite) that claims to be helpful to the environment by offering all those 
green products.  If you step back and tally all the pollution produced by 
all the extensive trucking and flying of all these goods to the network of 
stores you might find that the planet would have been greener if said big 
box store never existed!

I am upset about all the SPIN that hybrid cars now get and the perks to 
drivers such as being able to use HOV (High Occupancy Vehicle) lanes when a 
simple lower tech VW diesel car (no special concessions) gets measurably 
better fuel economy, and the diesel CAN use alternate green fuels more 
easily than a gasoline powered car that either uses gas or robs our mouths 
of food agriculture for fuel agro.

It`s all spin folks.  The only question is are we presently at 33-1/3rd or 
45 RPM.

Rob

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <LBaird119 at aol.com>
To: <Vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 1:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] negative aspects of burning water


> In a message dated 9/13/2007 9:57:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
> vbriggs at stny.rr.com writes:
>
>> the technology for a "real" electric car has been around for almost the
>> last 2 decades, but there is no real incentive to develop it beyond
>> what's been done, gas is too profitable, imagine if you will what would
>> happen to the likes of exxon and mobile it this actually worked, they
>> would go belly up over night. Yep, alternative energy sounds good, but
>> it aint never gonna happen, not in our life times. I'll keep my little,
>> anemic diesel thank you and smile all day long.
>>
>
>  There's a hitch to that theory and it falls on def ears it seems.
> (or non diesel people!)  In most of this country you go out and
> buy an electric car to "save the planet."  No more gas, you plug
> in, drive, plug in, drive, no more fiill up with nasty ol' petroleum.
> Thing is, most of the body is made of plastic (petroleum) it's made
> in facilities that use petroleum to make their power, run the
> equipment that makes it, delivers it, digs up the raw material,
> transports it and so on.  Now the clincher...  That electricity
> that you charge your new "planet friendly" car up with every
> night is most likely made from a petroleum (or coal.. fossil fuel)
> burning power plant!  You don't save ANY fossil fuel!  You simply
> move the location where it's burned!!  Hydro or nuclear change
> that but we all know how "terrible" those are!  ;-)
>     Loren
>
>
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