[Vwdiesel] Anyone driven the '09 TDI yet? On tiptronics and such

[Shawn Wright]

Isn't the new 6 speed tip a different dual clutch design from the older tiptronics? Probably 
even more to go wrong. I will avoid automagic trannies as long as I can. Dad's going with the 
auto though, so I'll get a change to drive it next month. His '03 TDI is an auto (not tip), and 
he's ok with it, except it does chew into the economy.

On 21 Aug 2008 at 23:37, James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:

> Yeah.  The 05 Passat has tip.
> Bleah.
> It's a shlushboxsh.  The manual bumpshift option/feature/toy/novelty 
> gets old fast, as big brother still watches over your shoulder and 
> shifts for you if it feels you are not doing it right, or maybe 
> infracting an occasional epa bylaw. Tiptronic is to a manual gearbox as 
> cornflakes is to theater popcorn- they are still both made out of corn, 
> but far from the same.
> 
> ranting aside, the shift points are all wrong, it winds this efficient 
> high torque 2 liter motor out so it screams.  There is no way in hell it 
> is being more efficient than I would be with a manual gearbox.  I'm 
> planning to chip it when I get some time to do so, hoping that that may 
> also reprogram the shift points to more sensible rpm's.  For instance, 
> when you apply moderate throttle and hold it there, it finally shifts to 
> high at 140kph, and downshifts to full scream every time you go to pass. 
> Utter crap.  I love the car.  I tolerate the transmission under extreme 
> duress.
> -james
> 
> 
> Tony and Lillie wrote:
> > You used the word "durability" in the same sentance as "Tiptronic"?
> > 
> > They are quite far from it, as your obvious 75 years of being a car buff has
> > told you. I have yet to replace a manual in a MK4, but have done three Tip's.
> > Also done one 4-speed auto. And, sent a DSG back to VW with 26K that was under
> > warranty. She is a good customer, so I asked with she got back. She said they
> > replaced the trans. Yea, give me one of those please..........
> > 
> > I think I'll keep the 82 Jetta and the 85 4000Q, thank you very much.
> > Tony Hoffman
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "William J Toensing" <toensing at wildblue.net>
> > To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 2:49 AM
> > Subject: [Vwdiesel] Anyone driven the '09 TDI yet?
> > 
> > 
> >> Yes, at the VW dealer in the Roseville (Calif) Auto Mall. However, it was
> >> only around the circular road inside the mall, not a real chance to test
> >> drive the car. It was a 4 door sedan with the "Tiptronic" manumatic. It felt
> >> reasonably smooth for an automatic, especially when you consider it to be an
> >> automated manual transmission. I liked the car but would prefer a
> >> "Sportwagon" with the 6 speed manual due to my concerns with the Tiptronic
> >> "manumatic". I saw a cut-a-way display of this "manumatic" transmission. From
> >> my experience as a 75 year old car buff, I wonder about the durability of
> >> this transmission, especially in stop & go city traffic. How long will the
> >> clutches (it has two, I have read) last? The transmission looked so
> >> complicated I doubt any VW dealership or independent automatic transmission
> >> repair shop will be able to repair it. I hope I am wrong in this assessment
> >> as an automatic that is as flexible as a manual transmission & offers as good
> >> or better fuel economy than a transmission would be a plus, if it is durable
> >> & not extremely costly to repair. Bill Toensing, Nevada City, CA
> >>
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Shawn Wright
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'88 Westy 1.6TD 5 speed
'85 Jetta Diesel 1.6NA