[Vwdiesel] Really wierd stating problem

Val Christian val at mongo.mongobird.com
Thu Jan 3 08:31:04 PST 2008


I watched drop from the battery to the starter/engine 
the drop was small.  Yep there could be an intermittent there,
but I'm pretty sure not.  The connections at the post
have also been verfied...there is less than .1 V drop on the
post during cranking.

> 
> bad battery cables?
> 
> On Jan 3, 2008 11:23 AM, Val Christian <val at mongo.mongobird.com> wrote:
> 
> > Gang,
> >
> > About 60kmiles ago, while having a warranty replacement of a
> > glowplug, my 03 TDI Jetta started "starting hard".
> >
> > I've replaced glow plugs, probed current flow to each plug,
> > checked/adjusted/checked/etc timing, measured starter draw,
> > load tested the battery (many times), measured voltage drop to
> > starter, checked shudder/egt/etc, spray patterened injectors,
> > compression checked (525/530/530/530 last time), verifed
> > flow in fuel filter, reblended oil (no 2 and No 1 mixes),
> > use 5W40 oil (fresh), etc.  Over all the miles the problem
> > has not getten better, just slightly worse.
> >
> > Randomly, the car won't start at all when it is cold, usually
> > without boostering or jumping.  Yet, the load test is good.
> > Group 94 battery, 650 CCA, 810 CA whatever that really means.
> >
> > Today, 4F wx, I had a smart charger on the battery overnight.
> > Voltage 13.3, with charger off.  Started glow cycle, and
> > cranked.  Slow crank.  Freshly charged battery.  Fresh oil.
> > After 20 seconds or so (two tries) the battery would not
> > crank.
> >
> > At that point the smart charger was pumping 25 A into the battery,
> > so i went inside, and came out in 30 minutes.  Initiated the
> > start cycle, and voila, it started just like when it was
> > a new vehicle.
> >
> > So I'm now thinking that the battery is intermittently bad.
> > Anyone ever have a similar experience, or heard of this kind of
> > failure?
> >
> > Val
> >
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> bad battery cables?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 3, 2008 11:23 AM, Val Christian &lt;<a href="mailto:val at mongo.mongobird.com">val at mongo.mongobird.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> Gang,<br><br>About 60kmiles ago, while having a warranty replacement of a<br>glowplug, my 03 TDI Jetta started &quot;starting hard&quot;.<br><br>I&#39;ve replaced glow plugs, probed current flow to each plug,<br>checked/adjusted/checked/etc timing, measured starter draw,
> <br>load tested the battery (many times), measured voltage drop to<br>starter, checked shudder/egt/etc, spray patterened injectors,<br>compression checked (525/530/530/530 last time), verifed<br>flow in fuel filter, reblended oil (no 2 and No 1 mixes),
> <br>use 5W40 oil (fresh), etc. &nbsp;Over all the miles the problem<br>has not getten better, just slightly worse.<br><br>Randomly, the car won&#39;t start at all when it is cold, usually<br>without boostering or jumping. &nbsp;Yet, the load test is good.
> <br>Group 94 battery, 650 CCA, 810 CA whatever that really means.<br><br>Today, 4F wx, I had a smart charger on the battery overnight.<br>Voltage 13.3, with charger off. &nbsp;Started glow cycle, and<br>cranked. &nbsp;Slow crank. &nbsp;Freshly charged battery. &nbsp;Fresh oil.
> <br>After 20 seconds or so (two tries) the battery would not<br>crank.<br><br>At that point the smart charger was pumping 25 A into the battery,<br>so i went inside, and came out in 30 minutes. &nbsp;Initiated the<br>start cycle, and voila, it started just like when it was
> <br>a new vehicle.<br><br>So I&#39;m now thinking that the battery is intermittently bad.<br>Anyone ever have a similar experience, or heard of this kind of<br>failure?<br><br>Val<br><br>_______________________________________________
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> <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Stephen T. Kraus Jr.<br>Home: (423)NONE<br><a href="mailto:UB3RATL4Sf00 at gmail.com">UB3RATL4Sf00 at gmail.com</a>;
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