[Vwdiesel] Really wierd stating problem

Thu Jan 3 08:35:04 PST 2008

Well that is odd.

The starter sounds like it turns over okay?

On Jan 3, 2008 11:31 AM, Val Christian <val at mongo.mongobird.com> wrote:

> I watched drop from the battery to the starter/engine
> the drop was small.  Yep there could be an intermittent there,
> but I'm pretty sure not.  The connections at the post
> have also been verfied...there is less than .1 V drop on the
> post during cranking.
>
> >
> > bad battery cables?
> >
> > On Jan 3, 2008 11:23 AM, Val Christian <val at mongo.mongobird.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Gang,
> > >
> > > About 60kmiles ago, while having a warranty replacement of a
> > > glowplug, my 03 TDI Jetta started "starting hard".
> > >
> > > I've replaced glow plugs, probed current flow to each plug,
> > > checked/adjusted/checked/etc timing, measured starter draw,
> > > load tested the battery (many times), measured voltage drop to
> > > starter, checked shudder/egt/etc, spray patterened injectors,
> > > compression checked (525/530/530/530 last time), verifed
> > > flow in fuel filter, reblended oil (no 2 and No 1 mixes),
> > > use 5W40 oil (fresh), etc.  Over all the miles the problem
> > > has not getten better, just slightly worse.
> > >
> > > Randomly, the car won't start at all when it is cold, usually
> > > without boostering or jumping.  Yet, the load test is good.
> > > Group 94 battery, 650 CCA, 810 CA whatever that really means.
> > >
> > > Today, 4F wx, I had a smart charger on the battery overnight.
> > > Voltage 13.3, with charger off.  Started glow cycle, and
> > > cranked.  Slow crank.  Freshly charged battery.  Fresh oil.
> > > After 20 seconds or so (two tries) the battery would not
> > > crank.
> > >
> > > At that point the smart charger was pumping 25 A into the battery,
> > > so i went inside, and came out in 30 minutes.  Initiated the
> > > start cycle, and voila, it started just like when it was
> > > a new vehicle.
> > >
> > > So I'm now thinking that the battery is intermittently bad.
> > > Anyone ever have a similar experience, or heard of this kind of
> > > failure?
> > >
> > > Val
> > >
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> > bad battery cables?<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 3, 2008 11:23
> AM, Val Christian &lt;<a href="mailto:val at mongo.mongobird.com">
> val at mongo.mongobird.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
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> > Gang,<br><br>About 60kmiles ago, while having a warranty replacement of
> a<br>glowplug, my 03 TDI Jetta started &quot;starting
> hard&quot;.<br><br>I&#39;ve replaced glow plugs, probed current flow to each
> plug,<br>checked/adjusted/checked/etc timing, measured starter draw,
> > <br>load tested the battery (many times), measured voltage drop
> to<br>starter, checked shudder/egt/etc, spray patterened
> injectors,<br>compression checked (525/530/530/530 last time),
> verifed<br>flow in fuel filter, reblended oil (no 2 and No 1 mixes),
> > <br>use 5W40 oil (fresh), etc. &nbsp;Over all the miles the
> problem<br>has not getten better, just slightly worse.<br><br>Randomly, the
> car won&#39;t start at all when it is cold, usually<br>without boostering or
> jumping. &nbsp;Yet, the load test is good.
> > <br>Group 94 battery, 650 CCA, 810 CA whatever that really
> means.<br><br>Today, 4F wx, I had a smart charger on the battery
> overnight.<br>Voltage 13.3, with charger off. &nbsp;Started glow cycle,
> and<br>cranked. &nbsp;Slow crank. &nbsp;Freshly charged battery. &nbsp;Fresh
> oil.
> > <br>After 20 seconds or so (two tries) the battery would
> not<br>crank.<br><br>At that point the smart charger was pumping 25 A into
> the battery,<br>so i went inside, and came out in 30 minutes.
> &nbsp;Initiated the<br>start cycle, and voila, it started just like when it
> was
> > <br>a new vehicle.<br><br>So I&#39;m now thinking that the battery is
> intermittently bad.<br>Anyone ever have a similar experience, or heard of
> this kind
> of<br>failure?<br><br>Val<br><br>_______________________________________________
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> > <br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Stephen T. Kraus
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