[Vwdiesel] New York Times article on '09 Jetta TDI...

[Hayden Chasteen]

Remember, the engine in the Jetta is much bigger (2.0l 140 hp?) and the 
current A5 design is as big and as heavy as the 90's B4 Passat so mileage is 
lower just because of those factors. Our older diesels are lighter, smaller 
and have much smaller engines.  Also VW didn't like the EPA mileage and had 
the car tested at a different facility and they found that they got 3-4 
miles per gallon better than the EPA test cycle.  There has been a big 
discussion of this over on the TDIclub site.  BTW if it wasn't for the 
common rail injection system, fuel economy would have been much worse and 
they would never be able to meet emission standards.  Unfortunately VW says 
B5 (biodiesel) only for these new engines.  Not a very green option but 
apparently due to the emission system.  There are a few guys on the TDIclub 
that are testing B100 in an 09 to see if there are problems.  So far, 
biggest problem seems to be oil dilution by fuel bypass.  One reported an 
increase of almost a quart in one oil change cycle.  No one is sure the 
cause of this yet but it may be due to bypassing of the rings during the 
break-in period.  Some antidotal evidence is that biodiesel is actually 
better for the after burn catalyst emission system but no specific data yet. 
Hayden

"Those who would sacrifice Liberty for Security, deserve neither Liberty nor 
Security." B. Franklin

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Belman" <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] New York Times article on '09 Jetta TDI...


Thanks Mark for the link, great artical. I remember reading an artical 
similar to this in 2003 on the A4 TDI.
I am confussed, this is the second time I have seen this VERY low MPG stats, 
are they talking about the TDI or Gas I wonder.

"
The Jetta is frugal in the middle years, with a rating of 30 miles a gallon 
in town and 41 on the highway. The tiny two-seat Smart is the only nonhybrid 
car that can match the 41 m.p.g. rating.
"
Humm, these cars get solid 46-50 all the time, all day long? Not sure what 
that is all about.

Wow, with the $1,300 Alt. fuel credit, which must be geared towards Bio 
Diesel, yes? I want one of these new ones in maybe 2 years.
But, that means I may have to part with some other car unless the wife will 
sell her gasser Vibe, which gets 34-35, not bad for a jap car wrapped by 
some Pontiac deal. It is a Toyota.

Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :)
92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(