[Vwdiesel] Grumpy starting (was How old is everyone?)

[James Hansen]

No, that's VW's job.  Their recall on the B5 Passat factory ceramic glow
plugs has resulted in my car not knowing how to start in the cold. That's
real useful, considering they informed me that VW is aware of the problem
and working on a new ECU flash to correct this minor glitch.  Should be out
sometime in the new year. VW customer satisfaction is same old.  That's why
I fix my own.  I get reminded of this EVERY time I take something to a
dealer. Every freaking time. It's uncanny, like there is some malevolent
Betty Boop cartoon figure in a VW suit working on my car.
If the motor being warm messed with the sensor data, it would never start
once it has ran Chris, when the opposite is true.
You can stuff the circulating heater under the battery behind the L
headlight.  Easy done actually. The zerostart ones are a squarish fairly
short box that fits well. Just don't ever get one with a check valve and
you'll be fine.
-james

> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com]
> On Behalf Of Chris Geiser
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:31 PM
> To: Tad; Erik Lane
> Cc: VW Diesel Group
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Grumpy starting (was How old is everyone?)
> 
> Completely guessing, but I wonder if the uneven or unanticipated
> heating messes with the computer / sensor data / readings?
> 
> 
> Chris
> 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tad <tadc at europa.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 1:21 PM
> To: Erik Lane <eriklane at gmail.com>
> Cc: VW Diesel Group <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Grumpy starting (was How old is everyone?)
> 
> Not sure since I've never actually installed one, but that's 'the word
> on
> the street', so to speak.
> 
> I think it basically boils down to nowhere to put the damn thing. :)
>  Someone else will probably pipe up with a better explanation.
> 
> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Erik Lane <eriklane at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 9:07 AM, Tad <tadc at europa.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Dave- I know it was an off-the-cuff remark, but in case you're
> serious
> > > about
> > > the TDI heater, (and in case you don't already know) the newer TDIs
> can't
> > > take a 'regular' block heater.  You have to use a circulating
> coolant
> > > heater
> > > instead.
> > >
> > >
> > Why is that? How is it that they are so different in the coolant
> passages
> > that a regular block heater wouldn't do the trick? I can't think of
> > anything
> > offhand that would prevent it. But please don't think my tone is
> > argumentative - I don't pretend to be an expert on the TDI engine and
> I'm
> > really curious as to what could force the TDI to use a special
> heater.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Erik
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