[Vwdiesel] vw bus engine in a JD lawn tractor

[Andrew .Libby]

It is quite obviously not a type 4 engine as it has the wrong intakes, the
exhaust exiting the sides of the head rather than the bottom and the fuel
pump is in the wrong place.

Andrew

On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Kurt Nolte
<syncronized_turbo at yahoo.co.uk>wrote:

> With all the aftermarket options and everything else for VW aircooled
> engines, just because an engine never came carbureted in the US doesn't
> mean that it can't be the engine on that lawn mower.
>
> If that's a TypeIV engine, then it'll have a spin-on filter mount cast
> into the left-hand side of the engine (facing the fan).
>
> Type 1 engines (upright) came in Beetles, Ghias and Buses(Type 2) and
> were modified for flat "pancake" operation in Type 3s
> (Square/Notch/Fastbacks). TypeIV/Type 4 engines came in the Type 4,
> obviously, and in the Type 2s starting sometime in the seventies.
>
> Looks to me like a Type 3 engine, from the pics.
>
> -Kurt
>
>
> Joe wrote:
> > I had a '70 Type III Squareback, and that was fuel injected.  (and lost
> it's
> > electronic mind on more than one occasion)  Since this tractor has carbs,
> > and claims to be 1600cc's, it has to be a Type III engine.  The bus
> didn't
> > use a pancake engine until 1972, and that engine came out of the Type 4
> > (411/412) which to the best of my knowledge was never carbureted for the
> > North American market.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Type_2
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Type_3
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VW_Type_4
> >
> > The Type 4 engine was also used in the Vanagon and the Porche 914, again
> > fuel injected.
> >
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porsche_914
> >
> > I've always felt one of VW's biggest mistakes was marketing the 914 as a
> > Porche in the US.  If they would have sold it as a VW (as was done in
> > Europe) they would have had a real winner.  How could a mid-engined "New
> > Ghia" not have been a winner?
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > PS - that tractor is INSANE!!!  Almost makes me want to get into
> lawnmower
> > racing...
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Herold, Walter L
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:57 AM
> > To: 'travis gottschalk'; 'vwdiesel at vwfans.com'
> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] vw bus engine in a JD lawn tractor
> >
> > The VW 'pancake' engines were originally used in the fastback and
> > squareback.  They are 1600 cc's and were rated at 57 HP.  If the twin
> cards
> > are Solex, then more than likely, the engine is out of a 67', because
> after
> > that they used fuel injection.  The one unique thing to remember is that,
> > although the firing order is the same 1-4-3-2, number 1 plug wire is
> where
> > number 3 would be on the upright engines.  That was done because of the
> > configuration that was presented when installed in the vehicle.  Other
> than
> > the sheet metal, and the aforementioned item, they are the same engine as
> a
> > beetle.  What is the letter designation on the block?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of travis gottschalk
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:47 AM
> > To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > Subject: [Vwdiesel] vw bus engine in a JD lawn tractor
> >
> >
> > Couple questions. I know nothing on air cooled gas VW engines. My father
> > just bought a JD 140 Lawn tractor with a VW bus engine in it. My father
> > always does write-ups on all the things we own in our tractor collection
> and
> > he was wanting some info on this engine. What years would it have been
> made,
> > what would the size be HP and cc (ex. 1600 cc). It has a mild cam in it
> and
> > dual carburetors. Any help would be appreciated. This is the link on ebay
> > and there is a youtube video of it running. The guy that put this in died
> a
> > few years ago and the seller doesn't know much about it.
> >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200417191446&ssPageName=A
> > DME:B:EF:US:1123
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Travis G
> >
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