[Vwdiesel] Still having starting issues with the 82 vanagon diesel

[Tad]

This reminds me of an issue my sister had with her 69 Type 3 gasser.  It
would occasionally refuse to crank when hot, usually after shutting down for
refueling.  Nearly every part was replaced, yet the problem persisted.
 Sometimes you could get it to start if you gave it a jump, so the added
voltage/current seemed to play a part... or just wait long enough.
Never did figure out what it was... problem was solved by selling it!

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>wrote:

> Nope, the van has always started with the remote start trick in the back,
> even when hot.
> The starter is one of the newer Bosch re-mans and it only about 3 years old
> with very little time on it.
> I love that starter, 1/2 the weight of the old 1.6 starter and a lot more
> power it seems.
>
> I do not understand why heat is effecting things, but is surely is.
>
> I am getting closer, will do the re-crimps on my battery cables after
> cleaning and try running alt. monster wire along the floor to by-pass wire
> going to the starter from the key.
>
> I will let ya know.
> thanks all.
>
> Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
> 92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
> 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :}
> 70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: brian gochnauer <brian at gochnauer.net>
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:07:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Still having starting issues with the 82 vanagon
> diesel
>
> When you say;
> "Yeap, I forgot to mention that a wire from the solinoid extra tab, or the
> remote start trick from the back of the van, ALWAYS start the van on 1/2 a
> rotation.  So, I am pretty sure my battery has enough emmph and the starter
> is good."
>
> Is that when hot too?
> Cause I'd suspect a bad winding in the starter, that is shorting only when
> hot.
>
> imho
> Brian (iowa)
>
>
> On 9/16/09, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > And again, I am with you there.  I already cut that last 6 inches off the
> > Red/Black #10 wire at the end where it connects to the solenoid.  I
> spliced
> > in a new piece of the same guage wire from a spare vanagon wiring harness
> I
> > have.
> >
> > I could try running an entirely new wire along the floor to see if it
> likes
> > this better.
> >
> > I have owned this van for many many years and the relay is fine if
> needed.
> > I have been working on a 72 super beetle, fixing it up for a lady, you
> > should see this thing, it is mint, as in history lesson.
> > not in wonderful shape, but no crashes, no dents, NO RUST, or only about
> 2%
> > rust.
> > Anyway, just pulled some monster wires out of it for a stereo system her
> > son had in it and I will try running one of these cables from the key
> back
> > to the solenoid to see what results I get that way.
> >
> > Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> > 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
> > 92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
> > 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :}
> > 70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "LBaird119 at aol.com" <LBaird119 at aol.com>
> > To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:55:27 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Still having starting issues with the 82 vanagon
> > diesel
> >
> > In a message dated 9/16/2009 8:37:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> > dieselwesty at yahoo.com writes:
> >
> > > Yeap, I forgot to mention that a wire from the solinoid extra tab, or
> the
> > > remote start trick from the back of the van, ALWAYS start the van on
> 1/2
> > a
> > > rotation.  So, I am pretty sure my battery has enough emmph and the
> > > starter is good.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >  That almost indicates it's your "start" wire more than the cables
> > themselves, or your solenoid itself.  That's pretty standard on a
> > Chevy with a bad/going bad solenoid.  I'd check the end of that
> > starter engage wire.
> >  Bigger cables are always much better.  Made up ones seem to
> > hold up better since the ends are sealed (over the tighten-the-bolt
> > replacemet ends).  If you had lots of green in there and put some
> > solder in, it didn't necessarily help.  If you get new ones, get 6V
> > application cables.  Much bigger and already made up. :-)
> >    Loren
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