[Vwdiesel] Still having starting issues with the 82 vanagondiesel

Wed Sep 16 12:58:26 PDT 2009

    I bought a few years back a Scirocco with an automatic. the lady sold it
to me for 100 bucks because she had it in the shop many times because it
wouldn't start and she was tired of calling for help or a ride. My long time
VW mechanic friend Harvey Nelson said we will bring a few tools and drive it
away. He just jumpered a wire from the solenoid to the battery and it
started. I said afterward we should have towed it around the corner before
we started it just to be nice to the lady.He said it is a regular problem
with a Rabbit with an automatic. Just too much heat by the starter which is
in the back of the engine. We installed a relay and a starter button and it
was a start every time vehicle. Actualy key switches are a problem on
Rabbits and other VW's I have a '90 16 valve Passat that won't start with
the key switch and it got the starter button conversion. Most of my Rabbits
have gone that route also. The Rabbit key switch is puny and everything you
can take off it helps. I also had a 1000cc Moto-Guzzi motorcycle that had a
Bosch starter and I had to install a starter button on it also.
Brian Decker
Western Washington
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Belman" <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Still having starting issues with the 82
vanagondiesel

Nope, the van has always started with the remote start trick in the back,
even when hot.
The starter is one of the newer Bosch re-mans and it only about 3 years old
with very little time on it.
I love that starter, 1/2 the weight of the old 1.6 starter and a lot more
power it seems.

I do not understand why heat is effecting things, but is surely is.

I am getting closer, will do the re-crimps on my battery cables after
cleaning and try running alt. monster wire along the floor to by-pass wire
going to the starter from the key.

I will let ya know.
thanks all.

Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :}
70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(

________________________________
From: brian gochnauer <brian at gochnauer.net>
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 1:07:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Still having starting issues with the 82 vanagon
diesel

When you say;
"Yeap, I forgot to mention that a wire from the solinoid extra tab, or the
remote start trick from the back of the van, ALWAYS start the van on 1/2 a
rotation. So, I am pretty sure my battery has enough emmph and the starter
is good."

Is that when hot too?
Cause I'd suspect a bad winding in the starter, that is shorting only when
hot.

imho
Brian (iowa)

On 9/16/09, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> And again, I am with you there. I already cut that last 6 inches off the
> Red/Black #10 wire at the end where it connects to the solenoid. I spliced
> in a new piece of the same guage wire from a spare vanagon wiring harness
I
> have.
>
> I could try running an entirely new wire along the floor to see if it
likes
> this better.
>
> I have owned this van for many many years and the relay is fine if needed.
> I have been working on a 72 super beetle, fixing it up for a lady, you
> should see this thing, it is mint, as in history lesson.
> not in wonderful shape, but no crashes, no dents, NO RUST, or only about
2%
> rust.
> Anyway, just pulled some monster wires out of it for a stereo system her
> son had in it and I will try running one of these cables from the key back
> to the solenoid to see what results I get that way.
>
> Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
> 92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :)
> 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :}
> 70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "LBaird119 at aol.com" <LBaird119 at aol.com>
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> Sent: Wednesday, September 16, 2009 11:55:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Still having starting issues with the 82 vanagon
> diesel
>
> In a message dated 9/16/2009 8:37:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
> dieselwesty at yahoo.com writes:
>
> > Yeap, I forgot to mention that a wire from the solinoid extra tab, or
the
> > remote start trick from the back of the van, ALWAYS start the van on 1/2
> a
> > rotation. So, I am pretty sure my battery has enough emmph and the
> > starter is good.
> >
> >
>
> That almost indicates it's your "start" wire more than the cables
> themselves, or your solenoid itself. That's pretty standard on a
> Chevy with a bad/going bad solenoid. I'd check the end of that
> starter engage wire.
> Bigger cables are always much better. Made up ones seem to
> hold up better since the ends are sealed (over the tighten-the-bolt
> replacemet ends). If you had lots of green in there and put some
> solder in, it didn't necessarily help. If you get new ones, get 6V
> application cables. Much bigger and already made up. :-)
> Loren
> _______________________________________________
> Vwdiesel mailing list
> Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
> _______________________________________________
> Vwdiesel mailing list
> Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
>
_______________________________________________
Vwdiesel mailing list
Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel
_______________________________________________
Vwdiesel mailing list
Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel