[Vwdiesel] how do I know I have a bad glow plug in newer TDI

Bryan Belman dieselwesty at yahoo.com
Mon Jan 25 10:42:29 PST 2010


Thanks, good to know.

 Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :}
82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :)
70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :( 




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From: Tad <tadc at europa.com>
To: Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
Cc: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Sent: Mon, January 25, 2010 1:11:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] how do I know I have a bad glow plug in newer TDI

From 96-97ish, TDIs monitor the GPs by watching the current drawn and setting a CEL if the current is not correct, which implies that a GP has burned out.  A bad connection in the system will also set an "intermittent" code. 

FYI the code will not go away after you fix the GP - it must be cleared manually with a scan tool.


On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:

on the newer TDI's, will a failed glow plug turn on the CEL?  I do not think it will.
>
>Is the easiest way to test them to pull each one and hook up to some battery cables on a spare battery to see it glow, just like I test old style GP's
>
>?
>The van is back up and running again, I just wish I had a good way to lock the crank.  With the muffle installed you can not remove the lower belt pulley on the crank gear to attach any type of home made crank lock to keep it at TDC when setting the belt tension.  It just takes more farting with it to get it perfect and it takes time.
>My new Mr. Heater double disc propane burner unit Did the Trick to keep me super warm, almost to warm, but it was not a cold weekend in NJ this past weekend.
>
> Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
>04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :)
>92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel -- running :}
>82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :)
>70 Type 1 stock Beetle -- Not running :(
>
>
>
>
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>From: "lbaird119 at aol.com" <lbaird119 at aol.com>
>To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
>Sent: Sun, January 24, 2010 2:51:21 AM
>Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] VW at the Detroit Auto Show
>
>In a message dated 1/23/2010 4:18:30 PM Pacific Standard Time,
>vwzoo at yahoo.com writes:
>
>> Does anyone know what all they add to the new diesels that help them
>> start in the cold. I sure would like mine to start that well in the cold.
>>
>>  By the way I decided to do the right thing and just replace that caliper
>> on my daughters 1990 Volvo 240. Thanks for all of your replies.
>>
>
>  Direct injection has a lot to do with it.  The rest like Hayden said. 
>But then, the old ones don't start that badly.  I've had my '80 Rabbit
>be one of the few vehicles (gas or diesel) that started well at -35F,
>without using the block heater.
>  Down around zero I was having trouble with the Passat this year,
>with only one bad glow plug.  (it needs injectors).  Dad's has the
>hot chipping and new injectors.  He had trouble starting at the
>same temp (about 2 minutes he said) but he only had ONE working
>glow plug!
>  Good oil, glow plugs, air filter, fuel, injectors compression and
>battery with the timing set properly and I'd say almost any of our
>diesels (except the re-flashed TDI's) would start quite dependably
>at -35F.  The non TDI's would just have to glow a lot longer before
>trying.
>  Loren
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