[Vwdiesel] Fw: Re: 1.6 liter diesel pump

Tue Jan 26 17:35:03 PST 2010

I'm more of a TDI guy and I don't know much about the IDIs, but couldn't one
also increase the diameter of the IP's piston?  Like in a TDI pump you can
go from the stock 10mm(or 11mm for an auto) to 11 or 12mm.  I guess the
outcome is more fuel in a shorter time period vs 'turning the screw".

On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 5:12 PM, <decker at toledotel.com> wrote:

> Hi Folks;
>    Here is my take on the Giles performance bosch diesel injection pump
> rebuild. I find it very hard to belive that he could come up with anything
> new after all these years. The whole trucking industry lived by their
> injection pumps and pretty much the only thing you could do to make a pump
> perform better was to turn up the max fuel screw. It is a simple adjustment
> that anyone can do. The limiting factor to the increase in power is how
> much
> black smoke you can stand when you put your foot in the pump. Before the
> days of computer run diesels here in the northwest you would see the boys
> blowing huge amounts of black smoke out of the stacks when they shifted on
> the hills.
>    In this post below by Brian Hoeft. He says he has a Giles pump which
> gives lots of power and makes enough smoke to blind the car behind him if
> he
> wants. So I assume from that the Giles performance pump is a good rebuild
> with the max fuel screw set beyond Bosch spec.'s. I always set the max fuel
> screw on my pumps after I have the idle and timing set to spec.'s. I like
> to
> se a little smoke when I put my foot in the pump but not enough that the
> smoke cops want to stop me or the SUV behind me wants to pull out his 45
> and
> put a few ventilation holes in my Rabbit pickup.
>    I  may well be wrong but I belive you can go to a good local pump
> rebuilder and get the same performance by after you have it installed on
> your 1.6, have all in time and tune then you put about an eighth of a turn
> in on the max fuel screw. Magically you will have a performance pump. It's
> all a matter of how much smoke you can endure. For a real performance
> booster open up the exhaust. there is no downside to that.
> Brian Decker
> Toledo WA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "brian hoeft" <qweblog at gmail.com>
> To: <vwzoo at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Fw: Re: 1.6 liter diesel pump
>
>
> > Hi Dave,
> >
> > Im new to this list but not VAG or Giles. I purchased a pump from
> > Perf.Diesel (Giles) about a year ago, was very leased at the power
> output,
> > build(clean,tight,clean,etc.) and very professional nature of dealing
> with
> > him.
> > I've since made more purchases from him and am happy to support him. Mind
> > you, the cost is high -i spent around 900 fed.notes all said & done-
> > especially for my turbo pump, but well worth it in the long run.
> >
> > Also, doing business in my local county is preferred, then state & so on,
> > but as ive come to terms with in dealing with my VW's, my ?nationalist
> > principles are somewhat compromised.
> >
> > as for performance, reliability & mileage.. thats subjective and has a
> lot
> > to do with the use it gets.  Efficiency is very attainable with a Giles
> pump
> > while still being able to blind the guy behind you if you want. & from my
> > experience installing and handling various diesel pumps, reliability is
> to
> > be expected.
> >
> > -brian
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:54 PM, Dave <vwzoo at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Guys,
> > >
> > >   I am considering buying a diesel injection pump from this place in
> > > Ontario called Performance Diesel injection. I have read really good
> reviews
> > > on other VW advice internet sites. What do you think. Do you think the
> claim
> > > of more HP with the performance pump and better mileage is realistic
> and
> can
> > > be done with good long term reliability?  I attached his letter. I am
> not
> > > calling him a liar or anything, but before I buy it I am hoping for
> some
> > > feedback.
> > >
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > --- On Sun, 1/24/10, Performance Diesel Injection <
> > > giles at performancediesel.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > From: Performance Diesel Injection <giles at performancediesel.ca>
> > > > Subject: Re: 1.6 liter diesel pump
> > > > To: vwzoo at yahoo.com
> > > > Cc: Giles at performancediesel.ca
> > > > Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 9:47 AM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Dave
> > > > no problem with the pump
> > > > we can build you a great
> > > > pump. yes we have cores they are $250
> > > > reg rebuild is $650
> > > > performance pump is $750.
> > > >
> > > > the performance pump will
> > > > get you about 15HP at the
> > > > wheels and almost 20 Ft/Ib of torque.
> > > > you will be able to cruise
> > > > at 70-80-90 it makes a
> > > > huge difference. best of all you'll get better
> > > >
> > > > gas mileage too!!! wow
> > > > best of both worlds.
> > > >
> > > > I drove one of those
> > > > Caddies for 10 years in
> > > > toronto and always wanted more power. now with
> > > > my pump you will have
> > > > it.
> > > > the Smart car with the
> > > > diesel we have in Toronto
> > > > keeps up with Hwy traffic no problems.
> > > > I also have a connection
> > > > in the UK that can boost
> > > > the power levels in it all the way up to
> > > > an amazing 127HP.
> > > > don't know if I'd want to go that
> > > > far but an extra 20-30 should do it more
> > > > than enough.
> > > > Giles
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Dave
> > > > Sent: Saturday, January 23, 2010 8:29 PM
> > > > To: Giles at PerformanceDiesel.ca
> > > >
> > > > Subject: 1.6 liter diesel
> > > > pump
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > >   I wrote you a while back, but I guess I must
> > > > have trashed the email. I need a diesel injection pump for
> > > > a 1982 VW Rabbit
> > > > diesel with the 1.6 liter diesel engine. What is the price
> > > > for a stock pump, for
> > > > a high performance pump and what is the core charge. Will
> > > > the high performance
> > > > give the car a little bit better umph to cruise on the
> > > > highway at the U.S.
> > > > highways at 70mph.
> > > >   Also, I was at the North American Auto show in
> > > > Detroit and I asked the Smart car people about the Smart
> > > > Twofor that was sold in
> > > > Candada that with a diesel engine. Have you come across
> > > > them. He said that the
> > > > diesel engines are not powered enough for US highways. I
> > > > have driven in Toronto
> > > > and people fly through there. Does the Canadian sold Smart
> > > > car with the diesel
> > > > do okay on the highways?  Just curious.
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > > Newlin
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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