[Vwdiesel] Silicone Brake Fluid

Tue Feb 14 11:52:38 PST 2012

Wow, that is a cool story to be close to, I guess they saved the plane for history and it is Geneseo.
I was not doubting the story, it is one of the most famous WWII stories I bet.

Thanks Val.

Bryan
From: Val Christian <val at mongo.mongobird.com>
To: dieselwesty at yahoo.com; vwdiesel at vwfans.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2012 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Silicone Brake Fluid

I actually knew this guy (ham call WA2ATV), and knew that he was the 
flight engineer.  I knew him for about 25 years, he moved away about 13 years
ago.  He told the story several times, and I was at Geneseo several times
when old crew members would show up and look at the plane, and they 
talked about it as well.  Therefore I believe the story to be true
and correct.  Furthermore, I never knew Dick to stretch things or be
untruthful in any way.

Solving puzzles when a college student, there were several problems in 
a creative problem solving workshop which required application of 
bodily fluids, but Dick's example was most memorable for me.

Val (de n2epo)

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> Did you actually know this guy or it that how the movie went, I forgot that=
>  part if I did see the movie but I know they made one about that story.=0Ad=
> id not know about the pee.=0Acool=0A=A0=0A=0ABryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ=
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> bruary 14, 2012 10:27 AM=0ASubject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Silicone Brake Fluid=0A=
> =0AEverytime we talk about brake and hydraulic fluid, I remember a story=0A=
> of a local ham, Dick, who was the flight engineer on the Fuddy Duddy, =0Aa =
> B-17.=A0 They were shot up, and the gear wouldn't come down all the way,=0A=
> and there was gunner trapped in the belly turret.=A0 So Dick passed around =
> =0Aa coffee can, and everyone "donated as best they could" and he poured th=
> e=0A"contributions" into the hydraulic system fill bottle.=0A=0AThe gear th=
> en lowered a little more, and the belly gunner lived for another =0Aday.=0A=
> =0A=0A> =0A> When it came out, it was touted somewhat, as the wonder fluid =
> for=A0 brakes.=A0 =0A> I've since heard nothing but DON'T USE IT.=A0 It's f=
> or racing=A0 applications =0A> only.=A0 I did get in a discussion about why=
>  it's not=A0 recommended for regular =0A> use and I just don't remember why=
>  it was.=0A>=A0 The best answer we came up with was to use DOT 4 since it's=
> =A0 compatible =0A> with about any systems (some tractors won't like it) an=
> d it absorbs=A0 water =0A> WAY less than DOT 3.=A0 Also costs more, but no =
> risk of screwing up a=A0 British =0A> car from putting DOT 3 in it!=A0 :-P=
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> ] Silicone Brake Fluid<BR></FONT></DIV><BR>Everytime we talk about brake an=
> d hydraulic fluid, I remember a story<BR>of a local ham, Dick, who was the =
> flight engineer on the Fuddy Duddy, <BR>a B-17.  They were shot up, an=
> d the gear wouldn't come down all the way,<BR>and there was gunner trapped =
> in the
>  belly turret.  So Dick passed around <BR>a coffee can, and everyone "=
> donated as best they could" and he poured the<BR>"contributions" into the h=
> ydraulic system fill bottle.<BR><BR>The gear then lowered a little more, an=
> d the belly gunner lived for another <BR>day.<BR><BR><BR>> <BR>> When=
>  it came out, it was touted somewhat, as the wonder fluid for  brakes.=
>   <BR>> I've since heard nothing but DON'T USE IT.  It's for r=
> acing  applications <BR>> only.  I did get in a discussion abo=
> ut why it's not  recommended for regular <BR>> use and I just don't=
>  remember why it was.<BR>>  The best answer we came up with was to =
> use DOT 4 since it's  compatible <BR>> with about any systems (some=
>  tractors won't like it) and it absorbs  water <BR>> WAY less than =
> DOT 3.  Also costs more, but no risk of screwing up a  British <B=
> R>> car from putting DOT 3 in it!  :-P<BR>>   
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