[Vwdiesel] honda diesel

[pmdolan at sasktel.net]

Since both the US and the EU import the majority of their crude, that 
is not the case.  They use the "same" feedstock, but in fact, 
refineries are built to best suit the traditional source of supply 
(thus why you see prices go strange when Venezuela stopped selling to 
the US - the Gulf Coast refineries were all looking for relatively 
heavy and sour product.  Great for heavy oil producers in the US - 
gave a couple of years of higher wellhead price (that is no where near 
the posted price of WTI that you see on the television daily) for an 
otherwise very low value product.  It can not be shipped as is, but is 
bought by midstream buyers who blend at their terminal and send the 
on-spec product to refiners. 

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:05:57 -0600, Chris Geiser <cfgeiser at gmail.com> wrote:
I seem to remember reading an article on refining that stated there was a
> real balancing act when refining crud oil - that you get gas and diesel in
> the refining process, and that the demand for diesel in Europe and the
> demand for Gasoline in the US balance each other out for those products
> I was under the impression that the balance between those two was what kept
> many of the diesel auto models out of the US, that if the US went a greater
> percentage diesel, that the demand for diesel would outpace supply and the
> price of gas would plummet, making diesel cars further undesireable. 
>
> I have no memory of where I read that, and I don't often see that spoken
> about, so maybe I'm remembering incorrectly...  Any refiners lurking on the
> list??  (or fuel speculators :) ?
>
> CG
>
>
>
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> On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 1:56 PM, James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:
>
> > No official Hondas here either Bryan.  Probably some personal imports but
> > none you could buy at the dealer.  Only official ones have been Benz, Jeep
> > CR, and VW. 
> > The new benz offerings have been pretty well received, but the price is
> > upscale.  Brother-in-Law loves his benz diesel monsterwagen. Other than it
> > smells like pee on cold start. 
> > Smart Cars are too use-specific, and the Jeeps didn't have a long enough
> > run
> > to get really good. 
> > -j
> >
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