[Vwdiesel] honda diesel

[pmdolan at sasktel.net]

Uh...close, but not quite. 

ALL modern refineries can balance their production to suit the varying 
demands of their market, although by design those capacities are 
different from EU to here. 

As for the "nasty tar sands", not quite how things work.  You can NOT 
feed bitumen to a normal refinery.  ALL of the product mined in Ft. 
MacMurray is fed to an upgrader that adjusts the hydrogen/carbon ratio 
and cleans up the junk to the point of making "synthetic crude" - which 
looks like it is ready to pour into your crankcase when it comes out of 
the upgrader.  It is the PERFECT feedstock for any refinery, or more 
to the point, petrochem plants as it is an "ideal" product by design. 

On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 15:36:15 -0600, dieseltdi at verizon.net wrote:
There is no real balancing act, in the US our refineries are set up to 
produce the MAXIMUM amount of gasoline possible from the crude and the 
left overs are used to make diesel, kerosene, fuel oil, etc.  In Europe 
that exact opposite is true.  Their refineries are set up to produce 
the maximum amount of diesel with gasoline coming in 2nd place.  It 
isn't the crude, it is the refining process that determines the 
outcome.  Look what you can do with that nasty tar sands oil that comes 
from Canada.  Still makes lots of gasoline if run through the right 
refinery.  Hayden
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> On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:05 PM, Chris Geiser wrote:
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> > I seem to remember reading an article on refining that stated there was a
> > real balancing act when refining crud oil - that you get gas and diesel in
> > the refining process, and that the demand for diesel in Europe and the
> > demand for Gasoline in the US balance each other out for those products
> > I was under the impression that the balance between those two was what kept
> > many of the diesel auto models out of the US, that if the US went a greater
> > percentage diesel, that the demand for diesel would outpace supply and the
> > price of gas would plummet, making diesel cars further undesireable. 
> > > I have no memory of where I read that, and I don't often see that spoken
> > about, so maybe I'm remembering incorrectly...  Any refiners lurking on the
> > list??  (or fuel speculators :) ?
> > > CG
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