[Vwdiesel] general brake question

[Tad]

>From what I've heard/read, OEM VW rotors are not worth turning.  They are
thin enough and new ones are cheap enough that it's not worth the bother.

Yeah I'm on my 4th set of rear pads(and 2nd rotors) if I recall correctly.
 The 3rd set would have lasted longer but one of my rear calipers started
to drag and wore out the inboard pad prematurely.

I'm not a grandma driving but I do do a lot of downshifting/engine braking
and try to conserve my momentum for purposes of economy.  And for those who
argue that downshifting is bad for the clutch, I changed the clutch at
~140k only because I was tired of chip-induced slippage, not because it was
worn out. :)

Of course the biggest reason for the front brake longevity is the balancing
valve VW uses... light braking is almost entirely done by the rears.

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 4:47 AM, mikitka <mikitka at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> I don't see that being warped would cause grabbing under light braking but
> then it might.  Can't really say what is going on if the pads are in good
> shape front and back.  The rotors being warped would pulse like mentioned
> before.  You can always have the front rotors checked for thickness and
> turned to make true again.  How is the fluid in the system?  Maybe a brake
> fluid flush might be in order?  Does this model have antilocking brakes?
> Nasty fluid can cause issues if so.
>
> Nick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On
> Behalf Of Bryan Belman
> Sent: July 10, 2012 6:24 AM
> To: Tad
> Cc: VWDiesel Group
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] general brake question
>
> that is amazing Tad, for sure they are getting thin.  If it is the MK4
> Jetta, the one pad will have a wear indicator wire that will make contact
> and set some alarm off on the dash.  My front brakes had a little less then
> 1/2 left when I did the brake job at about 100K, but rear pads were almost
> completely gone by the time a really looked at them.
> No wear indicator wire on the back, where you need it more than the front?
> Can't have it all.
> You must have changed rears at some point?
>
>
>
> Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :<)
> 92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel, 5sp -- running :<)
> 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :<)
> 70 Type 1 stock Elm Green Beetle -- Under Restoration :-)
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Tad <tadc at europa.com>
> To: Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "r.c.brown at ieee.org" <r.c.brown at ieee.org>; VWDiesel Group
> <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 12:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] general brake question
>
>
> i've got almost 180k on my original front brakes... I imagine they are
> getting a bit thin by now. :)
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 4:48 PM, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> ya know what, I may not have ever changes front pads, I know rear pads on
> these MK4's do wear out first.
> >I will pull wheels now.
> >thanks
> >I almost ordered rotors, but at $45 each, best to check first and do it
> the
> smarter way.
> >
> >
> >
> >Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> >
> >04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :<)
> >92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel, 5sp -- running :<)
> >82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :<)
> >70 Type 1 stock Elm Green Beetle -- Under Restoration :-)
> >
> >
> >________________________________
> >From: Roger Brown <r.c.brown at ieee.org>
> >To: vw fans <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
> >Sent: Monday, July 9, 2012 6:01 PM
> >Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] general brake question
> >
> >
> >I've found sometimes I get grabbing or sticking brakes when the pads are
> worn down, maybe
> >not to the wear indicator but close.  My guess on what is happening is
> that
> the caliper
> >pistons are extended out rather far and then when the pads get pulled my
> the rotor, that
> >causes the pistons to get cocked in the caliper bore a little bit and get
> stuck
> >momentarily.  When I have run into that, a new set of pads seemed to clear
> up that braking
> >issue.
> >
> >
> >On 7/9/2012 2:57 PM, Chris Geiser wrote:
> >> Doesn't sound like rotors to me, but I don't know what it sounds like...
> >> On the old ones, I would have guessed low vacuum or leak in the vacuum
> >> line, but not sure on tdi's.
> >>
> >> Wish I could be more help.
> >>
> >> CG
> >> **sent with mobile device
> >>  On Jul 9, 2012 3:42 PM, "Bryan Belman" <dieselwesty at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> my brakes have been grabbing as of late on the Jetta TDI when braking
> >>> lightly, when you hit the brakes harder, they do not grab.
> >>>
> >>> Is this rotors, that would be my guess.
> >>> I have never changed them, they have never been cut, 150K on car.
> >>>
> >>> Was thinking Raybesto Adv. Technology rotors for $42 shipped to my
> house.
> >>> ??
> >>>
> >>> I need to pull the front wheels tonight and have a look before ordering
> >>> something I may not need.
> >>>
> >>> Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
> >
> >
> >
> >--
> >
> >  Roger
> >
> >
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