[Vwdiesel] Injection pump timing?
ralph meyermann
ralphmeyermann at gmail.com
Fri Jan 24 11:28:10 PST 2014
The pump shows an R 433-2 then a BS-4022 ? Pretty sure, hard to read still
after wire brush and wd40.
Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
On Jan 24, 2014 12:54 PM, "ralph meyermann" <ralphmeyermann at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Finally my timing tools showed up, they mailed to my po box , the package
> was too big and they close before I get off work, daughter was home sick
> today and I picked it up. Now about 30 degrees out to try and read the
> numbers on my pump, lots of oxidation and has been too cold to fiddle with
> it. The large numbers right??
>
> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
> On Dec 30, 2013 11:39 PM, <lbaird119 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Well, that's pretty much what I was thinking but temps (coolant, intake
>> and fuel) all seem to be reasonably close. I was expecting to see one way
>> off but I didn't find any that were. Not sure how to log on. I have a
>> "smart cable" thanks to a list member, and it just connects. I was having
>> a "data has been altered" error and it wouldn't let me clear errors even.
>> Put the factory chips back in, presuming a glitch on the performance
>> chips, from the previous ECU frying. I can clear codes but still can't get
>> into the adaptation. Not sure if I'm doing something wrong or there's just
>> a problem.
>> It runs like it should when the "correction" gets disabled. I struck
>> me that I never changed anything when I put this ECU in, so it's probably
>> timed for the engine it came off of. Mine happened to time darn close to
>> perfect when I put the new belt on.
>> Loren
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tad <tadc at europa.com>
>> To: LBaird119 at aol.com <lbaird119 at aol.com>
>> Cc: mailing list <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>> Sent: Mon, Dec 30, 2013 1:58 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump timing?
>>
>>
>> Loren, sounds to me like the Passat has an issue with one of its temp
>> sensors.
>>
>>
>> When you go into Basic Settings, it disables the dynamic timing
>> adjustment and you're running the "mechanical" timing, i.e. it's injecting
>> according to how it's physically timed by the setting of the pulley/belt.
>>
>>
>> If it's running better *without* the ECU "fixing" the timing, the ECU
>> must think it's much warmer than it really is (either fuel, coolant or
>> intake air temp).
>>
>>
>> It's been a while since I used my VagCom but IIRC the adaptation problem
>> means you're not logged in to the ECU correctly?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 10:19 PM, <lbaird119 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Heh! I have several smoking-when-cold diesels and I figure the problem
>> is retarded timing. Dad said one day, he didn't know which smoked worse;
>> the stove (starting up) or the Tractor!! (a SAME, pronounced sah-may)
>> The passat is really bad but clears up when it warms up. Temp sensors
>> all show relatively correct (didn't check if EXACT). If I go to "basic
>> settings" when I get to 004, the idle smooths out, speeds up, sounds much
>> better and the timing goes from barely BTDC to about 8 degrees BTDC. If I
>> go to adaptation, all chanels come up as not available! Ugh. Beginning to
>> hate the electronic part of the TDI.
>>
>> Replaced the top rad hose-to-head, flange yesterday. No cracks but
>> it'd been leaking. Appeared to just be the o-ring but replaced the whole
>> thing BEFORE it cracked.
>> Loren
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jason <uberhare at gmail.com>
>> To: ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann at gmail.com>
>> Cc: vw fans <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>> Sent: Fri, Dec 27, 2013 5:39 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump timing?
>>
>>
>>
>> Here is a modification I recommend for the AAZ pump. There is a timing
>>
>> etard solenoid on the front of the pump. Wire it to be powered full time
>>
>> ith the fuel shut off switch. Then re-time it as you would a 1.6TD. I
>>
>> eem to recall .95 working well. That solenoid retards fuel timing below
>>
>>
>> 000 rpm for emissions. It also reduces performance.
>> Jason
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 7:54 PM, ralph meyermann
>> ralphmeyermann at gmail.com>wrote:
>> > I'll, get the part number off the pump to make sure. That'll probably
>> be on
>> Sunday.
>>
>> Velma 82 1.9L AAZ td westy
>> On Dec 27, 2013 12:40 PM, <dieseltdi at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>> > Unfortunately there are two different specs for AAZ timing. On pump is
>> > timed like all the previous 1.6’s the other is not.. I have the
>> > instructions somewhere for the one that is not, I believe. Haydeh
>> >
>> > On Dec 27, 2013, at 11:01 AM, Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Loren, he is using the 1.9TD pump from an AAZ. I have one in the
>> > garage, I will get the part number.
>> > > I need the timing spec as well for another day when I get the pump on
>> > the block.
>> > > I just googled and found this for 1.9TD AAZ pump.
>> > > MK3 / A3 chassis (1993-1997):
>> > > Engine AAZ (1.9l turbo) 0.80
>> > > +/- 0.02 mm
>> > >
>> > > Wow, check this guys directions out on how to do the pump timing.
>> > > Incredible, thank you so much for creating this.
>> > > I wish I had found this 15 years ago.
>> > > I do it so little that I always need to reference my notes when
>> setting
>> > pump timing.
>> > >
>> >
>>
>> http://vincewaldon.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=24&Itemid=26
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > My 1.9NA pump is .090mm +/- a bit.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
>> > > 04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD BEW, 100hp, 5sp -- running :<)
>> > > 04 Golf TDI PD BEW, 100hp, 5sp Tiptronic Auto -- running :<)
>> > > 82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA 1Y -- running :<)
>> > > 70 Type 1 Beetle -- Under Restoration forever:-)
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Friday, December 27, 2013 6:02 AM, "lbaird119 at aol.com" <
>> > lbaird119 at aol.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I'm not a big fan of just putting in a lower temp thermoswitch.
>> > They're designed to go with the thermostat. Change stat temp, change
>> the
>> > thermoswitch. Just change one and not use the correct one of the other
>> and
>> > the fan will either run way too much or not enough.
>> > > Make sure you're actually running hot, with a thermometer (IR or
>> what
>> > have you) rather than just using the gauge. They vary. Only in a
>> Vanagon
>> > would I suspect the timing could be off enough to overheat but power
>> should
>> > be equally low. What the pump number in case someone has the specs?
>> > Should be 068...
>> > > Loren
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: ralph meyermann <ralphmeyermann at gmail.com>
>> > > To: Bryan Belman <dieselwesty at yahoo.com>
>> > > Cc: vwdiesel <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>> > > Sent: Thu, Dec 26, 2013 9:31 pm
>> > > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump timing?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > I'm using the injection pump that came with the AAZ. The water pump
>> is
>> > > ewish and of all metal construction, it was used in the 1.6 na with a
>> > > ingle V belt conversion I purchased from Scott at turbo vans and not
>> had
>> > > ny issues on the 1.6? The oil cooler hoses come out of the main
>> coolant
>> > > oses. I wonder if my timing is retarded thus adding more fuel/heat to
>> > > chieve the power/speed desired? Planning on getting the dimensions of
>> my
>> > > adiator shroud to see if I can upgrade the cooling fans and a lower
>> temp
>> > > an switch.
>> > >
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