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more trivia (was: Re: 1990 Model 80 Quattro Trivia)
At 10:42 PM 1/11/96 -0800, Eliot Lim wrote:
>> eliot--don't take this to mean i want to start another engineering purpose
>> thread (really--i don't) but just 'cause they stiffened up the body doesn't
>> mean it's got to get heavier
>
>how on earth did you infer that????????????????
easy--weight does not equal stiffness; ever ride on an aluminum framed
bicycle? with the same or less weight, they give you these oversize tubes
that makes the thing a true bone (and rump) shaker. oops--that's getting
into engineering (and beyond me) and other fancy stuff i said i wouldn't get
into.
>maybe i should have rephrased that to say, "the new car gained about 200
>pounds and a stiffer structure accounted for much of that". better now?
>
>ok, some REAL numbers:
>
>european 4000CSQ (called 90Q over there): 2646 pounds
>european 80Q/90Q w/ 5 banger: 2826 pounds
>
>source: performance car
>
>there was about a 200 pound gain between generations, that was what i
>remembered. i also remembered that the US 4KCSQ weighed about 2800
>pounds vs. the 2646 for the european version. so add the 200 pounds
>and you have 3000. cars sold in the US had a higher equipment level
>such as cruise, power windows, a/c etc, plus the emission stuff, so
>they weigh more.
REAL numbers that don't apply here. aren't we getting into the apples and
oranges thing again? i mean, performance car (neat mag, btw) with euro-spec
cars vs. n. american stuff--and who knows if the german-spec is the same as
the french as the uk etc?
ok...how 'bout some n. american #s? well...i have had this perverse need to
know how little my cars are really worth--just so happens the NADA Official
Used Car Guide includes the curb weight of various models (i knew this--just
hadn't thought of it before tonite). since during most of these years, most
audis came similarly configured, it's probably safe to assume delivered
weights were quite close to these numbers.
here goes the audi entries of interest to this list. there appear to be a
few errors in there, so i've used my version of common sense to make these
groups. otoh, i might add typos, too ;) if it really looks out of wack,
drop me a note. (you may want to view with fixed spacing font)
4k/80/90/Coupe FWD
'83-84 4k 2d 2146
'83-84 4k 4d 2215
'85-87 4ks 4d 2337
'85-87 coupe 2507
'88 80/90 2568/2732
'89 80/90 2612/2789
'90 80/90 2668/2789
'91 80/90 2844/2999
'92 80 2906
4k/80/90/Coupe quattros
'84 4kcsq 2745
'85-87 4kcsq 2824
'88 80q/90q 2904/2948 --the one we're looking for--80# !!!
'89 80q/90q 2954/2976
'90 80q/90q 2954/3042
'90 coupe q 3174
'91 80q/90q 3087/3308
'91 coupe q 3308
'92 80q 3086
unfortunately, no ur-q were listed.
5k/100 FWD incl wagons
'84-88 5ks 2844
'89 100 2932
'90 100 3042
'91 100 3153
'92 100/s/cs 3329/3385/3407
'84-87 5ks wagn 2954
'88 5ks wagn 2930
'89 100 wagn 3042
5k/100 quattros incl wagons
'88 5ksq 3307
'89 100q 3306
'90 100q 3263
'91 100q 3374
'92 100csq 3715 V6
'92 100csq w 3892 V6 - only year i found a NA q wagon
5kt/5kcst/200 FWD
'83-84 5kt 3042
'85-88 5kt/5kcst 3086
'89 200 3086
'90 200 3263
'91 200 3252
5kt/5kcst/200 quattros including wagons
'86-88 5kcstq 3351
'89-90 200q 3483
'91 200q 3627 (150# too light, per gvwr & capacity stickers)
'92 S4 3870
'86-88 5kcstq w 3437
'89 200q wag 3439
'90 200q wag ?
'91 200q wag 3726
for Eliot, Mike & others :)
'90 V8 3946
'91 V8 3903
'92 V8 3991
btw, i do have both ec and r&t articles on my '91 200q. unfortunately, i've
"moved" twice since i bought the car, and those issues are somewhere in
boxes, and probably not here. some day...
have fun with all this.
--ldt
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