Re: Numbers is numbers

[Jeremy R King <kingjer@eng.auburn.edu>]

I have been a little one-sided, but that was just to even out the stories 
a little.  I agree completely with your comments.  The main thing that 
got me was phrases like, "blown away" and "left him".  It would take 
inclement weather for a q to seriously leave a properly driven Bimmer.  
Beat - sure, but not leave.  Sorry for the ambiguity.  The most recent 
post about the q vs 300ZX in the rain I can believe.  You blow away 
Hyundais.  You beat Bimmers.  With, of course, the exception of all y'all 
lucky guys with the S4's and aftermarket goodies.  Thanks for the rebut, 
Scott.  Keeps us all in line.

Jeremy

On Mon, 22 Jan 1996 PDQSHIP@aol.com wrote:

> Hmmmmm.....   THE absolute BEST published time for a stock BMW 5spd 325i (and
> the number was suspect, cuz with the 189hp rating the numbers didn't add up)
> coupe is 6.7 seconds, average is 7.2....  Lots of cars on this net or the
> road could take that....  Especially if you look at the gearing of the
> bimmer, even the best of drivers would be hard pressed to beat some of the
> lowly audis.....  The A4 with a 5spd is certainly right at the 7.0 mark, I've
> knocked off 7 second times with torque braking a v8, and coming out of a
> turn, which was the post, a v8 "on cam" can bury just about anything in
> second gear.   0-60 The S4 is 6.0, the 200tq 20v is 6.2....  All in stock
> trim.....  The 5ktq's of stageII fame can bang 6.5 seconds all day long, and
> urq's are 7 second cars even stock.......  
> 
> I got a brother that can make the Miss Piggy (stealth vr4) dance with
> published numbers, but there are few that really do that......  If you look
> at real world or more of a "oh we're racing" title, lots of audis can make
> the 325 drivers turn red.  M3 different story, M5 different story, but 325,
> tho competent and pretty quick is hampered by the drivetrain, and more often
> than not, the driver......  Not the case with your brother, or mine, but to
> make it just plain fly is not it's strength, it gets ugly pushed 10/10's in
> stock trim.....  Me thinks that really is THE advantage to AWD......  And in
> the cases of the posts vs 325's a little knowlege of the true advantages can
> stack the deck against the 3 pretty easy....  To handle first gear on a
> 325coupe without the passenger giving you a head clip for **shole driving
> technique is just not easily done, BTDT
> 
> Scott
>