>To crash & live to build another car and try that same turn again -1 MPH? Glen, I have yet to see a Stock Class Auto-X car require the needs of a cage, And with all of those stock rubber bushings in place, the gains in chassis stiffness will not be translated into the suspension. NJTH Later! Eric Fletcher '87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B STEADIRIC@aol.com