Borbet #2 bit the dust last night. 12:15 AM, 30 degrees out, after a 15 hour work day. Died with class too, Borbet #1 at least kept air, this one went flat immediately. Excellent. I'm rippin' those pansy 17's off & puttin' 18's on that thing next. -- -Mike mikes@specnet.com mks107@psuvm.psu.edu 87 5000CS TQ - Metropolitan Washington, D.C. 84 5000S - Boulder, Colorado 90 80 - Bethesda, Maryland