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> From: Alex Zhukovsky <azhukovs@fac.har.sunysb.edu>
> When she called she was told that the clutch is "slipping" (!) and the
> car needs a new one. I can hardly beleive that this is true for I know
> how the problem started. But could it be that one of the plates got
> broken and was blocking enetering into the gear and then somehow
> relocated (etc....)
Alex, this is a bit weird, but the clutch is simply not dis-engaging
when presed down. As long as you can start the car in gear and shift
by matching revs, you can get it a ways, but clearly it's not a good
situation.
IF you can get it to a hill, you can always try putting a load on it
while going uphill (like full-bore acceleration in 2nd starting at low
speed) and see if the clutch DOES slip. If you get a rev increase which is not
reflected in road speed - usually when the engines comes on the cam
and makes power - then your clutch is slipping. But if you can't
make it slip
so that you can shift into gears when the motor is on, but
> the clutch is slipping since there is not enough pressure, or is it
> still the cable, or is it something else? There was no slightest sign
> of slipping before! I will greatly appreciate all the responses!
> Thanks, Alex Zhukovsky.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Michael LaRosa <76761.1444@compuserve.com>
> Date: 11 Apr 96 18:34:26 EDT
> Subject: Sludge........
>
> Hi Peter,
>
> Regarding the sludge..... Do you use Dino or synthetic ?
>
> Drive it long or short distances ?
>
> I've switched from Dino to Synthetic (Mobil 1) in my wife's 89 100
> Avant at 101k miles. (she does all short distance driving...)
>
> No more tapping when it's started and the sludge seems to subsiding.....
>
> Just my .02 here :-)
>
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: Steve Powers <spowers@spdg.COM>
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:49:45 -0700
> Subject: Re: quattro evolution
>
> Glen asks:
>
> >How does 'EDL' work? Is it just electronically controlled 100% mech =
> >locking diffs as used in the first gen qs? Does it use the ABS to sense=
> >slip?
>
> per the manual, EDL uses the ABS sensors to detect wheel slip. Once detected,
> the EDL engages the brakes to cause the Torsen to shift the torque to another
> wheel. The unit also detects speed (works at < 35 mph) and temperature of the
> brakes (dunno what temp.).
>
> Although this system in on the '96 A6s, the late '95 S6s have it too. You
> can't find a word about it in the S6 manual. I asked for an A6 manual which
> was provided to me gratis. (I probably paid for it twice...)
>
> - -steve powers '95.75 S6W
> seattle, wa
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Stephen Williams <mannlaw@indy.net>
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:46:55 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Flames under the hood
>
> Regarding the flammability of "Water Wetter"--I have no idea.
> However, harkening back to what "experts" have told me after promising to
> tell the truth, I recall that EVERYTHING that is liquid and living under
> your hood is flammable, excepting perhaps your windshield washer stuff.
> The key, or so I've been told is not "will it ignite" but rather "at what
> temperature will it ignite". Very interesting stuff regarding gasoline
> fed fires in vehicles made by one of the Big 3. "It's not the gasoline,
> stupid, it is the vapors". Oh, whatever. Apparently, many things--even
> when sprayed on the exhaust manifold--refuse to burn.
>
> FWIW.
>
> Bruce
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Peter Henriksen <peterhe@microsoft.com>
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:49:58 -0700
> Subject: RE: Questionable service
>
> I would look into the law requiring mechanics to disclose and get
> authorization for any repairs and charges before doing any work. I'm not
> quite sure how far it goes, but your case sure looks like it should be
> covered.
>
> I'm not very impressed with Barrier's service dept. myself. I took the
> 200 there to get the rotors done and some other items, among them the
> stalling problem. They reported that they couldn't reproduce the
> stalling problem. Yeah, right. I got it several times a day until I
> started using my usual foot position (right foot on both gas and brake)
> to blip the throttle a little every time the engine is coasting down...
> Dweebs.
>
> Let me know what happens - they're right down the road from me and
> although I don't plan to take the car back there, I'd like to stay
> up-to-date. Thanks.
> - - peter, peterhe@microsoft.com, redmond, wa
> 91 200qw
> 94 acura legend gs
> 80 mazda 626
> O-
>
> >----------
> >From: jefj@lightspd.wa.com[SMTP:jefj@lightspd.wa.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, April 11, 1996 7:36 AM
> >To: quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> >Subject: Questionable service
> >
> > About 2 weeks ago I took my CQ in (to Barrier in Bellevue) for a new
> >rr. wiper
> >switch and some re-wirering, all covered under warranty, except for a
> >$35
> >deductable. GIECO came and looked at the car and OK'd the work.
> > After talking with the dealer today he informed me of some "added"
> >charges to
> >my bill, NOT covered by the warranty. These include: a $25 "shop fee"
> >to cover
> >misc shop parts etc., (He says he didn't know how much it would be
> >since it
> >varies from job to job. Thats why he never mentioned it.) and, he said
> >they
> >added/changed the trany fluid (to synthetic), which I NEVER authorized.
> >The
> >service rep had only SUGGESTED I switch to a synthetic. (I really do
> >not think
> >they changed the fluid at all since it doesn't shift any different.)
> > My question is: Should I have to pay for this extra "shop fee" since I
> >was
> >never told about it in the beginning? I DO NOT/WILL NOT pay for the
> >tranny
> >service. I was originaly told that all I would have to pay was the $35
> >deduct.
> >Just wondering what kind of ground I have to stand on. Its not the $25
> >bucks
> >but the princaple/cheap/sneaky bussiness dealings......man I hate
> >dealerships!
> >Any help/advise would be mucho appreciated!
> >
> >Thanx,
> >Jef
> >jefj@lightspd.wa.com
> >90CQ
> >90FZR1000
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> ------------------------------
>
> From: Peter Henriksen <peterhe@microsoft.com>
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 15:52:26 -0700
> Subject: RE: Sludge........
>
> Mobil 1 after 12,000 or so miles and it's usually driven around 15 miles
> to work (30 miles round trip) 5 times a week. If I drive, it's 1 mile
> freeway and then surface streets, but my wife has about 10 miles of
> freeway to work...
>
> I'll try changing oil and filter every 1,000-1,500 miles for the next 3
> changes and then see what happens.
> - - peter
>
> >----------
> >From: Michael LaRosa[SMTP:76761.1444@CompuServe.COM]
> >Sent: Thursday, April 11, 1996 3:34 PM
> >To: Peter Henriksen
> >Cc: quattro
> >Subject: Sludge........
> >
> >Hi Peter,
> >
> >Regarding the sludge..... Do you use Dino or synthetic ?
> >
> >Drive it long or short distances ?
> >
> >I've switched from Dino to Synthetic (Mobil 1) in my wife's 89 100
> >Avant at 101k miles. (she does all short distance driving...)
> >
> >No more tapping when it's started and the sludge seems to
> >subsiding.....
> >
> >Just my .02 here :-)
> >
> >==================================================
> >Mike LaRosa INCASES Engineering N.A.
> >Manager, 20 Trafalgar Square
> >EDA Technical Support Suite 403
> >603-881-5392 Nashua, NH
> >603-881-5467 Fax 03063
> >E-Mail: 76761.1444@compuserve.com
> >==================================================
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Bob D'Amato" <Bob.Damato@snetel.com>
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:06:48 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: Oil filter
>
> On Thu, 11 Apr 1996, Kevin Boothroyd wrote:
>
> >
> > 4 for the Mahle OC-85
> >
> > 2 for the Mahle OC-47 (includes Shokan of NY)
> >
>
> heck.. if Shokan said to use the OC-47, then I would DEFINATELY go with
> the OC-85. A bigger bunch of F**k-ups, you couldnt find if you wanted to!
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: cobram@channel1.com (Cobram)
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:01:00 -0640
> Subject: Re: Alldata
>
> "Al Powell" <APOWELL@agcom.tamu.edu> writes:
>
> A-> I remember some recent questions about All Data. My most technical
> A-> mechanic type here subscribes to a professional AllData service which
> A-> provides him complete reference manuals, etc. on a wide variety of
> A-> cars - the whole thing is on CD-ROM. This makes a LOT of sense.
> A-> No need to have all those manuals, and less expensive (altho I don't
> A-> know what he pays for it.)
>
> It may be more convenient, but not less expensive. I'll find out
> for sure, but the last time I spoke to friend who has Alldata
> at this shop, was around $5000.00 for the yearly subscription.
> It's also not as good as the printed manual, because unless you're
> really proficient in it, it'll take you a while to get where you
> want to be, and even then, you may find yourself on the phone
> calling Alldata for information that is not on the system.
>
> I recently had occasion to use the full Alldata system, and
> took me an hour to come to the conclusion that what I needed
> wasn't anywhere to be found. (Needed a wiring diagram for the
> AC system on a late model Mercury Tracer) Ended up calling alldata,
> and two days later they faxed it. (It was on a Friday, so I don't
> know their response time on a weeday basis.)
>
> I couldn't resist but look up the V8Q, and was wholely
> disappointed on what was offered, the procedures are there,
> but it just lists them in order, no pics, illustrations, etc.
> like in the factory manuals.
>
>
> A-> Based on this, I'd venture that AllData would be worth exploring as a
> A-> source of technical./service information.
>
> You can get a free 10 minute trial (actually 15mins) of their
> phone lookup service too. I recommend not using your real name/
> address, they email you a special password, and if you have
> more than one email address, you can get multiple free
> trials.
>
> BCNU
>
> ... Se non e vero, e molto ben trovato.
> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Robert Myers <rmyers@wvit.wvnet.edu>
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 19:06:40 -0400
> Subject: Re: Water Wetter
>
> Well of course it's flammable. All oils will burn. Including the snake
> variety. :-)
>
> At 04:23 PM 4/11/96 -0500, you wrote:
> >On Thursday, 11 Apr 1996, Andrew Duane USG/PE wrote:
> >
> >> > >I hear it is also flammable - blow a coolant hose and pooooof!
> >> > >
> >> > >A Pro-Rally friend toasted his car with the stuff -he says NEVER AGAIN!
> >> > >Run away FAST!
> >>
> >> I have some water wetter, but haven't used it yet. As I recall,
> >> you add about 2 ounces to a radiator full of coolant. It's hard
> >> to imagine how that would be flammable.
> >
> >Since your coolant is probably flamable in the first place, I don't see
> >how much difference that would make. I have been told that the
> >garden-variety 50/50 ethylene glycol and water mix is flamable, but I
> >have never attempted to prove it.
> >
> >Phil
> >
> >
>
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Randall Paquette <75313.1445@compuserve.com>
> Date: 11 Apr 96 19:08:09 EDT
> Subject: 5KCSTQ oil filter ANSWER
>
> The correct filter for the 10v turbo (with single oil filter) is......
>
> drum roll please.....
>
> OC-85
>
> in fact I have a letter from Mahle responding to my same question only 2 weeks
> old.
>
> >Also I am still looking for a straight answer to the
> >correct oil filter for an 87 5000 cs Turbo Quattro.
>
> >lets have a vote....Mahle oc47 or Mahle oc85
>
> Randy P.
> 87 5KCSTQ (194k miles)
> 92 VW Passat (78k miles)
> 90 V8 (82k miles) - for sale CHEAP!!!!!!!!
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Randall Paquette <75313.1445@compuserve.com>
> Date: 11 Apr 96 19:07:59 EDT
> Subject: 5KCSTQ: Broken sunvisor
>
> HEY,
>
> My sunvisor (drivers side) finally bit the big one. It falls down going over
> bumps. It doesn't appear that it can be R&Red because the vinyl is sealed all
> over. CAN these be fixed, and if not are all visors (and roof liners) the same
> color - mine is dreamish, greyish, whitish/ My interiour is beige leather (with
> suede inserts) and brown dash, etc.
>
> TIA
>
> Randy P.
> (no sig yet)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Bruce Bell <bbell@csn.org>
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 1996 17:14:20 -0600
> Subject: Comparison of Dunlop D40M2 & SP8000
>
> This is direct from the Dunlop "Full-Line Brochure" 3/95.
> Amazing; but, the book has no copyright mark on it I can find.
>
> Several of you requested this info so I'm giving it to you all. I only chose
> sizes I thought would be of the most interest. Really intresting to me how
> the same size tire from one manufacturer could be so different between models.
>
> Gary Bergman, a wholesale tire distributor in Denver, among others has told
> me the D40M2 is stiffer than the SP8000. I've run the 8000's on my 4kcsq in
> 205x50x15 at Second creek and I noticed they tended to roll over on the
> sidewall. Course, I have stock suspension w/Boge TGas; but, did try boostng
> pressure to nearly 50lbs. I really like the ride of the 8000's though.
>
> D40 M2 Rim Sect. loaded rolling revs / tread
> width width diam. radius circ. mile width weight
> 195x50x15 6.5 8.1 22.8 10.6 69.3 914 7.5 21.4
> 205x50x15 6.5 8.5 23.2 10.7 70.5 898 7.8 22.5
> 205x60x15 6.5 8.5 24.8 11.3 75.0 844 7.0 23.1
> 225x50x15 7.0 9.3 24.0 11.0 72.5 874 8.4 26.2
> 225x50x16 7.0 9.3 25.0 11.4 75.5 837 8.4 27.1
> 215x45x17 8.0 8.9 24.6 11.6 74.8 846 8.0 24.9
>
> SP8000
> 205x50x15 5.5 8.1 23.1 10.6 69.9 906 7.2 21.4
> 205x60x15 Not available in SP8000
> 215x50x15 6.0 8.5 23.5 10.8 71.1 891 7.6 22.3
> 225x50x15 6.0 8.9 23.9 10.9 71.9 881 7.9 23.8
> 225x50x16 6.0 8.9 24.9 11.4 75.5 841 8.5 26.0
> 215x45x17 7.0 8.5 24.6 11.6 74.7 848 7.9 24.4
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________________________________
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>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Luke D. Vinogradov" <Luke.VINOGRADOV@ENG.monash.edu.au>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:34:42 GMT+1000
> Subject: When will my auto die?
>
> Hello All (especially tranny-meisters!)
>
> I believe my auto ('81 4k 2.144l) is on its way out. I have been led
> to believe this by a) the mechanic telling me so and b) the following
> symptoms: fairly loud whining in first (not the diff) particularly
> under full throttle and on changes, surge/lurch on changes
> particularly under full throttle, a tendency to wait a little before
> engaging reverse particularly after a bit of work - I drove it a
> continuous 400km finishing with a climb up to a ski resort and when I
> got there the delay had doubled, and the mechanic reported that there
> was quite a bit of friction material in the pan.
>
> My question: in what way will this thing die, and how long might I
> have? I have competing priorities for the next $1k on the car
> (shocks, exhaust) but these others aren't going to leave me stranded
> all of a sudden. I might be mistaken, but the car seems to be losing
> power, and there seems to be (at least below 2500rpm or so) a
> tendency to feel, well, slushy, i.e. I can rev it up and down by
> nearly 1000rpm in top without a whole lot happening to road speed. I
> know that's what slushies are all about, but my last auto, an old
> Dasher (similar trans I thought?) was much more responsive, and I
> think faster off the line (even with a carb) in that something
> happened at the wheels *before* it had revved itself silly.
>
> Is it really degenerating, and what should I do?
>
> Luke
>
> <>--luke-vinogradov------accident-research-centre---------<>
> <>-----------------------monash-university----------------<>
> <>-----------------------lukev@its-menz.cc.monash.edu.au--<>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Luke D. Vinogradov" <Luke.VINOGRADOV@ENG.monash.edu.au>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 1996 09:47:27 GMT+1000
> Subject: Smooth idle and ambient temp
>
> Here I go again, filling my (dumb?) question quota, but you guys
> know much more than I about combustion etc.
>
> Anyway, in my other post I mentioned that I took the 4k 5 cyl auto
> to a ski place over the Easter holiday. I noticed something that
> interested me and I'd like to know why it was so: my idle in gear,
> which is usually very regular/rhythmic but shakes the car a lot
> especially once warm, had smoothed out completely, the car barely
> wobbled. One of the eng mounts is pretty tired, and I presumed that
> was the reason it usually vibrates so much, and all the interior
> fitting with it (rattle squeak buzz, it drives me crazy) but up
> there it just seemed to be burning the fuel completely differently.
> Ambient up there was 8-12C but down here I rarely drive it below 10.
> Temp gauge said 95-100.
>
> Was it the air temp, or pressure or what? How do I make it run like
> that all the time?!
>
> Thanks,
> Luke
>
> <>--luke vinogradov------accident-research-centre---------<>
> <>-----------------------monash-university----------------<>
> <>-----------------------lukev@its-menz.cc.monash.edu.au--<>
>
>
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