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From: "Rich Andrews (jr)" <rjandrew>
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Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 11:39:42 -0500
In-Reply-To: Heikki Pikkujamsa <100655.2526@CompuServe.COM>
"200T problems, new turbo needed?" (Jul 7, 4:41am)
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To: Heikki Pikkujamsa <100655.2526@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Re: 200T problems, new turbo needed?
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If you have $75 then your porblems are solved. It is the Main
turbo hos with the rings that run around it (near the intercooler)
same thing happened to my dad's while I was driving it and I freaked out
We changed the 02 sensor and no change, the hose looked as though
it was fine on top, wrong... slit in the bottom vacuum/boost leak.
HTH,
Rich Andrews
On Jul 7, 4:41am, Heikki Pikkujamsa wrote:
> Subject: 200T problems, new turbo needed?
> I bought a '89 200T about two months ago, got it cheap because it
nedeed a new
> pwr steering pump and a brake booster. Fixed those and learned to live
with 3
> pwr windows and "floating" speedometer needle, when it happened. I was
making a
> pass in a freeway when suddenly, instead of that comfortable power,
the engine
> generated a lot of black smoke which could be seen from the rear view
mirror.
>
> After that incident the car hasn't been the same allthough I haven't
seen the
> black smoke anymore. It stalls if I have to stop in red lights engine
hot, and
> does not start until after 10 minutes or so. Another alternative is to
open the
> air filter box and pump the air flow meter flap to get some gas to the
> injectors, and then just drive away. Also, the car generates speed
very slowly
> now and the tachometer hardly goes over 5000rpm even if I floor the
pedal (max
> boost is now 0.9bar, before it was 1.3 bar). Another sign of problem
is that the
> vacuum assisted idle stabilizer system does not work.
>
> I would preciate if someone could give me advice on what might be
broken. I
> think that the turbo gave up and it is actually rescricting the
airflow thus
> minimizing the flow meter flap movement. On the other hand could
faulty ox
> sensor cause something like this? I haven't found any leaks or cracks
on the
> turbo/cooler piping.
>
> If the turbo has to be replaced I would not mind to upgrade it to a
bigger one
> or use some KKK hybrid similar to Garret TO3/04 combo's which are very
popular.
> Anyone tried this? Also, does anybody know how much airflow (hp) is
the stock
> KKK capable to produce and where lies the limit for the stock CIS? As
I
> understand that the actual boost in stock rim is only 0.3 bars, I
believe that
> this little powerplant has a lots more potential than 170hp.
>
> Any suggestions regarding the problem are more than welcome.
>
> Heikki
>
>-- End of excerpt from Heikki Pikkujamsa
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> From: "Rich Andrews (jr)" <rjandrew>
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> Date: Sun, 7 Jul 1996 11:39:42 -0500
> In-Reply-To: Heikki Pikkujamsa <100655.2526@CompuServe.COM>
> "200T problems, new turbo needed?" (Jul 7, 4:41am)
> References: <960707084109_100655.2526_BHL45-1@CompuServe.COM>
> X-Mailer: Z-Mail 4.0 (4.0.0 Aug 21 1995)
> To: Heikki Pikkujamsa <100655.2526@CompuServe.COM>
> Subject: Re: 200T problems, new turbo needed?
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>
> If you have $75 then your porblems are solved. It is the Main
> turbo hos with the rings that run around it (near the intercooler)
> same thing happened to my dad's while I was driving it and I freaked
out
> We changed the 02 sensor and no change, the hose looked as though
> it was fine on top, wrong... slit in the bottom vacuum/boost leak.
> HTH,
> Rich Andrews
> On Jul 7, 4:41am, Heikki Pikkujamsa wrote:
> > Subject: 200T problems, new turbo needed?
> > I bought a '89 200T about two months ago, got it cheap because it
> nedeed a new
> > pwr steering pump and a brake booster. Fixed those and learned to
live
> with 3
> > pwr windows and "floating" speedometer needle, when it happened. I
was
> making a
> > pass in a freeway when suddenly, instead of that comfortable power,
> the engine
> > generated a lot of black smoke which could be seen from the rear
view
> mirror.
> >
> > After that incident the car hasn't been the same allthough I haven't
> seen the
> > black smoke anymore. It stalls if I have to stop in red lights
engine
> hot, and
> > does not start until after 10 minutes or so. Another alternative is
to
> open the
> > air filter box and pump the air flow meter flap to get some gas to
the
> > injectors, and then just drive away. Also, the car generates speed
> very slowly
> > now and the tachometer hardly goes over 5000rpm even if I floor the
> pedal (max
> > boost is now 0.9bar, before it was 1.3 bar). Another sign of problem
> is that the
> > vacuum assisted idle stabilizer system does not work.
> >
> > I would preciate if someone could give me advice on what might be
> broken. I
> > think that the turbo gave up and it is actually rescricting the
> airflow thus
> > minimizing the flow meter flap movement. On the other hand could
> faulty ox
> > sensor cause something like this? I haven't found any leaks or
cracks
> on the
> > turbo/cooler piping.
> >
> > If the turbo has to be replaced I would not mind to upgrade it to a
> bigger one
> > or use some KKK hybrid similar to Garret TO3/04 combo's which are
very
> popular.
> > Anyone tried this? Also, does anybody know how much airflow (hp) is
> the stock
> > KKK capable to produce and where lies the limit for the stock CIS?
As
> I
> > understand that the actual boost in stock rim is only 0.3 bars, I
> believe that
> > this little powerplant has a lots more potential than 170hp.
> >
> > Any suggestions regarding the problem are more than welcome.
> >
> > Heikki
> >
> >-- End of excerpt from Heikki Pikkujamsa
>
>
>
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