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Count me in for one!!

Mark Hogan


>quattro-digest            Wednesday, 24 July 1996      Volume 03 : Number 765
>
>*
>*  Welcome to the digest version of the quattro list.
>*  See the end of the digest for unsubscribe info.
>*  In this issue:
>Appreciation!
>Audi 80/90/Coupe Radio
>Italian Touring Car Championship 1996 - Imola
>Re: CV boots
>Re: Wild ideas for the OOOOwww-D
>RE: Audi 200 headlight update
>Re: wastegate valve for S4
>Secrets of speed tape
>Re: Eric's demise?
>gasp choke wheeze
>Wheel weights
>Re: CV boots
>Eric's Demise?
>Suggestion: NJ/NY Area Meeting (Was: NE area gathering)
>Re: Quattro Spyder??
>Re: CV boots
>Re: Eric's demise?
>Re: Wheel weights
>Re: Eric's demise?
>Re: Hairy green frogs... (WAS: Quattro Wagons)
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>From: lavallee <llavalle@atcon.com>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:05:17 -0300
>Subject: Appreciation!
>
>I really enjoy the information I read on this list and the characters that
>write it. I like the facts that are provided, free, for those in need from
>those with a heart. It isn't too often that we can interact with total
>strangers from near and distant lands and get an education about a special
>topic -- in this case Audies. I like the "... green frog..." stuff (mostly
>because I am half a Canadian frog--my father was from Quebec -- and well,
>like my Audi, I can do with a few spare parts).
>
>"If you would rule the world quietly, you must keep it amused."
>                                                -Ralph Waldo Emerson
>
>Keep up the great work.
>
>I'm not sure of the value of my two cents worth, but that's it (Incidently,
>the Canadian dollar is not doing too well these days either).
>
>Love the list.
>
>Larry
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Christopher G. Gharibo, M.D." <gharic01@mchip00.med.nyu.edu>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 21:40:55 -0400
>Subject: Audi 80/90/Coupe Radio
>
>I installed an after market unit in my Coupe right after purchase and
>therefore I have the stock head unit (AM/FM/Cassette) in like-new condition
>just collecting dust.  I wish to sell it and if anyone is interested, E
>mail me.
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Silvio Gordiani <gordiani@torino.ALPcom.it>
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 04:09:00 +0100
>Subject: Italian Touring Car Championship 1996 - Imola
>
>     Superturismo 1996 - Results rounds 11-12
>
>Imola, 20-21/07/96      16 laps = 78,272 km
>
>Starting grid
>=======================================================================
>Pos.      Driver          Car                    Time            Km/h
>=======================================================================
> 1.     J. Cecotto      Bmw 320i                1'57"479*       149,909
> 2.     E. Naspetti     Bmw 320i                1'57"680*       149,653
> 3.     R. Capello      Audi A4                 1'57"882*       149,396
> 4.     Y. Muller       Audi A4                 1'58"659*       148,418
> 5.     F. Giovanardi   Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       2'00"254*       146,450
> 6.     G. De Adamich   Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       2'01"846*       144,536
> 7.     M. Pezzuto      Peugeot 405 Mi16        2'02"270*       144,035
> 8.     Y. Surer        Bmw 318 Is              2'02"969*       143,216
> 9.     G. Busi         Peugeot 405 Mi16        2'03"541*       142,553
>10.     M. Pigoli       Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       2'01"667        144,749
>11.     M. Soli         Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       2'02"780        143,437
>12.     G. Sansoni      Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       2'03"034        143,140
>13.     F. Tedeschi     Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       2'03"101        143,063
>14.     M. Lusuardi     Bmw 318 Is              2'04"401        141,567
>15.     R. Fortunato    Peugeot 405 Mi16        2'05"601        140,215
>16.     D. Bernasconi   Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       2'06"149        139,606
>17.     L. Falessi      Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       2'07"048        138,618
>18.     S. Sambataro    Opel Vectra Gt          2'11"305        134,124
>19.     R. Colciago     Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       2'27"606        119,312
>
>* Times set in the top-qualifying session
>
>==============
>    RACE 1
>==============
>
> 1. R. Capello          Audi A4                 32'09"798 - 146,015 km/h
> 2. J. Cecotto          Bmw 320i                + 0"618
> 3. E. Naspetti         Bmw 320i                + 0"989
> 4. I. Muller           Audi A4                 + 11"879
> 5. F. Giovanardi       Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 13"353
> 6. G. De Adamich       Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1'00"635
> 7. M. Pigoli           Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1'13"324
> 8. Y. Surer            Bmw 318 Is              + 1'23"509
> 9. M. Soli             Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1'26"710
>10. D. Bernasconi       Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1'34"390
>11. F. Tedeschi         Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1'36"688
>12. G. Sansoni          Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1'43"361
>13. L. Falessi          Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1 lap
>14. M. Lusuardi         Bmw 318 Is              + 1 lap
>15. R. Colciago         Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 4 laps
>
>Fastest lap: E. Naspetti, 1'59"538, average speed 147,327 km/h
>
>==============
>    RACE 2
>==============
>
> 1. E. Naspetti         Bmw 320i                32'00"388 - 146,730 km/h
> 2. R. Capello          Audi A4                 + 0"347
> 3. Y. Muller           Audi A4                 + 6"254
> 4. F. Giovanardi       Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 15"699
> 5. J. Cecotto          Bmw 320i                + 26"547
> 6. R. Colciago         Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 48"525
> 7. G. De Adamich       Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 56"447
> 8. Y. Surer            Bmw 318 Is              + 1'26"190
> 9. D. Bernasconi       Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1'38"349
>10. M. Soli             Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1'42"917
>11. F. Tedeschi         Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1'44"714
>12. G. Sansoni          Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       + 1 lap
>
>Fastest lap: Cecotto, 1'59"000, average speed 147,993 km/h
>
>
>_Drivers Championship_
>
> 1. Capello (I)         Audi Sport Italia       Audi A4
>177
> 2. Cecotto (YV)        Bmw Italia              Bmw 320i                139
> 3. Muller (F)          Audi Sport Italia       Audi A4
>131
> 4. Naspetti (I)        Bmw Italia              Bmw 320i                127
> 5. Giovanardi (I)      Alfa Romeo-Nordauto     Alfa Romeo 155 Ts       120
> 6. Colciago (I)        EC Motorsport           Alfa Romeo 155 Ts        64
> 7. De Adamich (I)      Alfa Romeo-Nordauto     Alfa Romeo 155 Ts        29
> 8. Pigoli (I)          Soli by Guercino        Alfa Romeo 155 Ts        28
> 9. Pezzuto (I)         Motortrend/Piemme       Peugeot 405 Mi16         23
>10. Surer (CH)          Bmw Italia              Bmw 318 Is               22
>
>_Manufacturers' Trophy_
>
>1. AUDI         344
>2. BMW          286
>3. ALFA ROMEO   214
>
>Next Rounds: PERGUSA  August, 4.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: rjandrew@post.cis.smu.edu (R Justin Andrews)
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 21:19:57 -0600 (CDT)
>Subject: Re: CV boots
>
>>
>> What kind of tool do you need to disconnect the axle shaft from the
>> differential?  Is that a hex tool or is it a 12 pt. tool?  What size?
>> This is on an '86 5KCS.
>> Thanks
>
>u will need a 10mm triple square (12 pt.) toool along with a 1/2inch
>socket that is 1/2 inch drive needless to say a 1/2drive ratchet.
>HTH,
>Rich Andrews
>rjandrew@post.cis.smu.edu
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: AUDIDUDI@delphi.com
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:22:37 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: Re: Wild ideas for the OOOOwww-D
>
>> I talked to the SCCA and the rule reads as you said, but in CSP it lists
>> Audi quattro (all) meaning my car will run CSP and I can update/backdate
>> with ANY Audi quattro.  I asked for clarification and it is true!!
>
>You'd better get this in writing because you *will* lose if/when protested.
>There has only been one model of "Quattro" (with a capital Q) sold in this
>country and your "4000CS Quattro", to call it by it's full name, ain't it.
>
>Your car is properly classed in DSP not CSP, which is probably just a good
>thing since, IMHO, you'll be more competitive there.  Of course, you might
>also consider moving to E-Prepared instead so we can duke it out with each
>other next year...  ;^)
>
>     _             _
>    / l       l o l  \       l o   Jeffrey Goggin
>   /__l l l / l l l  l l l / l l   * * * * * * *
>  /   l l_l \_l l l__/ l_l \_l l   AudiDudi@delphi.com
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Peter Henriksen <peterhe@microsoft.com>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 20:06:38 -0700
>Subject: RE: Audi 200 headlight update
>
>The old lens may have been pitted and/or the reflector may have lost its
>luster. Do you still have the old light? It'd be interesting to do a
>side-by-side comparison - how about lining up next to Linus some dark
>night?
>- - peter
>
>>----------
>>From:  Eric Harman[SMTP:ericha@wrq.com]
>>Sent:  Tuesday, July 23, 1996 5:34 PM
>>To:    quattro@coimbra.ans.net
>>Subject:       Audi 200 headlight update
>>
>>I just recently got a headlight replaced on my '91 200 Quattro and
>>noticed something peculiar.  A lot more light out of that side.  I
>>haven't tried replacing the bulb on the un-broken light yet, but
>>it almost seems as if the stock replacement has a much better
>>beam pattern and more light.
>>Has anybody else noticed this?
>>At $342 ($171/side) from Carlsen this is surely not as good as a set
>>of the Euro lights, but compared to $750 or so (Peter?) this might be
>>a lot cheaper.
>>
>>     -Eric Harman (ericha@wrq.com)
>>     '91 Audi 200 Quattro (for sale), '90 Mazda 626 Touring Sedan GT
>>
>>
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: STEADIRIC@aol.com
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:12:40 -0400
>Subject: Re: wastegate valve for S4
>
>>I just got an E-mail regarding a valve for the S4 that keeps full
>>boost(overboost?) at less than full throttle. Said to increase
>>driveability(?) Costs $100. Any suggestions? Is this worth doing, especially
>>considering I have Ned's IA3 ECU mod. Any downsides to this?
>>Also, in this engine, is it worth going from K&N filter to removing airbox
>>and replacing it with K&N cone ?
>
>Well.... Considering that the part is availble from places like Imparts
>for $45 or so I think that I might skip this one and go direct.....
>
>Later!
>
>
>Eric Fletcher
>'87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B
>St. Louis, MO
>
>STEADIRIC@aol.com
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: STEADIRIC@aol.com
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:12:51 -0400
>Subject: Secrets of speed tape
>
>Who Want's one?
>
>E-mail me for a count and then I'll give you all the details.
>
>Later!
>
>
>Eric Fletcher
>'87 5KCSTQIA2RSR2B
>St. Louis, MO
>
>STEADIRIC@aol.com
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: "Paul C. Waterloo" <74543.407@CompuServe.COM>
>Date: 23 Jul 96 23:16:51 EDT
>Subject: Re: Eric's demise?
>
>> >TO THE LIST:  Sorry for the public post, but I though this issue
>> >needed to be addressed.
>>
>> Whatever......
>>
>> Later!
>>
>>
>> Eric Fletcher
>
>Now my .02 cents. Personally, I feel Eric was just a little too harsh.
>Regardless who is correct, it's just not polite (bring on the flame throwers!).
>However, this is a an open forum, so take it at face value.
>
>However, I find Eric's posts (and a lot of other people's) very, very, very,
>entertaining. This list is better than any soap opera or prime time show as far
>as entertainment/educational content goes.
>
>People will say what ever they want, and I'm not gonna tell anybody how to say
>what's on their mind.
>
>I think this list is great, I just wish my wife could find a good hobby and a
>good open forum like this to keep you interested.
>
>Paul
>
>91 200 Q
>
>
>**************************************************************
>Paul Waterloo                    TEL: (860) 267-7714
>HydroAire Incorporated           FAX: (860) 267-7387
>875 Old Hartford Rd
>Colchester, CT  06415          EMAIL: 74543.407@compuserve.com
>**************************************************************
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: cyclops@mindlink.bc.ca (michael mulholland)
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 19:14:50 -0700
>Subject: gasp choke wheeze
>
>you guys can be sure that i'll keep you posted on the fun and
>not-so-much-fun that i'll be having.
>mike
>Cyclops Bicycles
>Ph. (604) 545-5644 Fax (604) 545-1167
>michael_mulholland@mindlink.bc.ca
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: johnholt@halhinet.on.ca (John Holt)
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:43:25 -0400
>Subject: Wheel weights
>
>I have a 1988 90 Quattro with the original aluminum 4-bolt wheels. These
>are the same wheels as the 5KQ 5-bolt of that period (full circle with 5
>shallow slits around the outer edge with a pop-off cover in the centre with
>an Audi logo). I have had the wheels balanced too many times. The reason is
>that all of the tire installers have advised me that I cannot mount the
>clip-on type weights because there is not enough bead around the rim to
>retain the weight. Their solution is to use the adhesive weights which last
>about a week or two in the mud and snow of rural Ontario, Canada. Without
>weights, a shimmy develops in the front end as would be expected.
>
>My solution was to use the Audi pressed steel rims. Works great...haven't
>lost a weight in a year but the look of a pressed steel wheel without a
>cover for the bolts is something to be desired. Another Audi owner stopped
>my wife to tell her that the pressed wheels were the ugliest wheels he has
>ever seen on an Audi. I agree.......I want the aluminum wheels back. Any
>ideas on attaching weights more permanently without screwing them to the
>wheel.???? :)
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Mark Eissler <tequila@interlog.com>
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 96 00:02:56 -0000
>Subject: Re: CV boots
>
>Michael J Myers, mimyers@prairie.NoDak.edu wrote:
>
>>
>>What kind of tool do you need to disconnect the axle shaft from the
>>differential?  Is that a hex tool or is it a 12 pt. tool?  What size?
>>This is on an '86 5KCS.
>
>It's an 8mm Tri-Square socket head. Available at NAPA and well-stocked
>tool places.
>
>
>
>Mark Eissler          | UNIX, DOS, oh and MacOS too.
>tequila@interlog.com  | Why wouldn't a developer use
>                      | a Macintosh?
>http://www.interlog.com/~tequila/  My new hURL!!!!!!
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Stephen Williams <mannlaw@indy.net>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 23:15:02 -0500 (EST)
>Subject: Eric's Demise?
>
>        Quick!! Unplug the computer and crush the modem, the 'net cops
>are here!
>
>        What gives here anyway?  The last time I read the Constitution
>[yeah, well, it has been awhile], the ol' freedom of speech thing was
>still in it.  And, thank goodness for it.  You see Darin, as soon as we
>put a muzzle on Eric for stating his opinions about crAP, then, well,
>sorry, but we are going to have to measure you for one for stating your
>opinions about Eric.  Then everything gets messy 'cause someone will try
>to measure me for one for stating my opinions about your opinion about
>Eric's opinion about crAP.  See how this works?  Before you know it, the
>only person left without a muzzle is some jerkweed that has no opinions
>because he is f'in dumb to formulate 'em.  But, since Mr. jerkweed
>dumbas* is the last one left able to speak [or type for that matter] his
>lone voice rings out the loudest, with no one left to call him a jerkweed
>dumbas*.  *That*, my q-list friend, is reality.
>
>        So, from now on, feel free to bitch and moan about anything you
>like--because you can.  If you don't agree, good for you!! Just [please?]
>go easy on that muzzle stuff.
>
>        Sorry for the bandwidth.
>
>        BTW, Eric, how much did TAP charge to machine those holes in the
>Alfa pistons anyway?  Maybe that is the answer for my too-high
>compression '89 200 motor:)
>
>        Bruce Aukerman
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Nivi@aol.com
>Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 00:24:46 -0400
>Subject: Suggestion: NJ/NY Area Meeting (Was: NE area gathering)
>
>Guys (and gals),
>
>Since the July 27th meeting was vetoed by most, how about the area people who
>wanted to meet get together???
>
>Just a thought...
>
>Dorab (nivi@aol.com)
>1993 S4
>1990 CoupeQ
>1986 Chevy Caprice
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Brendan Rudack <rudack@ucsub.Colorado.EDU>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:25:38 -0600 (MDT)
>Subject: Re: Quattro Spyder??
>
>For more info. re. Spyder and Avus look at:
>Motor Trend June 1992
>Road and Track January 1992
>Audi (publication of AoA) Summer 1992
>
>Brendan Rudack                  rudack@ucsub.Colorado.EDU
>88' 90Q
>Boulder, Colorado
>
>On Tue, 23 Jul 1996, Daniel S. Alves wrote:
>
>> Hi all.
>>
>> Yesterday I bought a book entitled "Cars Europe Never Built" (copyright
>> 1992)and they had a photo and write-up of an orange Quattro Spyder.
>> Supposedly, this debuted around 1991 at the Frankfurt auto show.  Anyway,
>> I think this car is absolutely gorgeous!!  The book mentioned a price
>> around $60,000 and it wasn't exactly futuristic looking, so production
>> seemed a possibility.  Anyone have any other details on this car?  I only
>> ask because I thought I remembered reading somewhere that it would be
>> produced in a limited number ~2500.  I'm also pretty sure there's a photo
>> of a green one on the Web somewhere but a quick search came up negative
>> this morning.
>>
>> If anyone has absolutely no clue what I'm talking about, I have access to a
>> scanner and can post on the Web.
>>
>> BTW, the book also had a photo of an Avus Quattro <drool> but with a
>>$1,000,000
>> price tag, I'm sure that one never made it.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> dan
>>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Stef <stagnaro@mail.sdsu.edu>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 21:42:11 -0700
>Subject: Re: CV boots
>
>Just wondering that recall on 87 5KS differential, would that cause the
>axles to wear and break?
>Stefanie
>
>R Justin Andrews wrote:
>>
>> >
>> > What kind of tool do you need to disconnect the axle shaft from the
>> > differential?  Is that a hex tool or is it a 12 pt. tool?  What size?
>> > This is on an '86 5KCS.
>> > Thanks
>>
>> u will need a 10mm triple square (12 pt.) toool along with a 1/2inch
>> socket that is 1/2 inch drive needless to say a 1/2drive ratchet.
>> HTH,
>> Rich Andrews
>> rjandrew@post.cis.smu.edu
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Stef <stagnaro@mail.sdsu.edu>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 21:48:17 -0700
>Subject: Re: Eric's demise?
>
>Whatever....I think you boys need to stop bickering, I mean, while some
>of your tantrums *are* entertaining, there are a lot of us who, most of
>the time, don't know what the hell you all are blabbing about. K?
>>
>> >TO THE LIST:  Sorry for the public post, but I though this issue
>> >needed to be addressed.
>>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Brendan Rudack <rudack@ucsub.Colorado.EDU>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 22:40:48 -0600 (MDT)
>Subject: Re: Wheel weights
>
>Make sure that the wheels are vey clean when the sticky backked weights
>are put on and have them(or do it yourself)  Put a large piece of duct
>tape over the weight.  I do it with mine and they never fall off.
>
>Brendan Rudack                  rudack@ucsub.Colorado.EDU
>88' 90Q
>Boulder, Colorado
>
>On Tue, 23 Jul 1996, John Holt wrote:
>
>> I have a 1988 90 Quattro with the original aluminum 4-bolt wheels. These
>> are the same wheels as the 5KQ 5-bolt of that period (full circle with 5
>> shallow slits around the outer edge with a pop-off cover in the centre with
>> an Audi logo). I have had the wheels balanced too many times. The reason is
>> that all of the tire installers have advised me that I cannot mount the
>> clip-on type weights because there is not enough bead around the rim to
>> retain the weight. Their solution is to use the adhesive weights which last
>> about a week or two in the mud and snow of rural Ontario, Canada. Without
>> weights, a shimmy develops in the front end as would be expected.
>>
>> My solution was to use the Audi pressed steel rims. Works great...haven't
>> lost a weight in a year but the look of a pressed steel wheel without a
>> cover for the bolts is something to be desired. Another Audi owner stopped
>> my wife to tell her that the pressed wheels were the ugliest wheels he has
>> ever seen on an Audi. I agree.......I want the aluminum wheels back. Any
>> ideas on attaching weights more permanently without screwing them to the
>> wheel.???? :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Stef <stagnaro@mail.sdsu.edu>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 21:49:19 -0700
>Subject: Re: Eric's demise?
>
>I meant that in a nice way though....please don't kick me off the list
>;-)
>
>------------------------------
>
>From: Stef <stagnaro@mail.sdsu.edu>
>Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 21:54:58 -0700
>Subject: Re: Hairy green frogs... (WAS: Quattro Wagons)
>
>>
>> big long message, too long to forward in reply
>> ---------------snip---------------------------------
>
>Yeah, what he said.
>
>------------------------------
>
>End of quattro-digest V3 #765
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>
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