since you're already talking brazing, why not prefab a captive nut on some sheet metal, cut out the old one with a hole saw, then braze or tig in the prefab. mike 4ksx2 5kcdtq lada 1600 Cyclops Bicycles Ph. (604) 545-5644 Fax (604) 545-1167 michael_mulholland@mindlink.bc.ca