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owner-quattro-digest@coimbra.ans.net wrote:
>
> quattro-digest Friday, 22 November 1996 Volume 03 : Number 1418
>
> *
> * Welcome to the digest version of the quattro list.
> * See the end of the digest for unsubscribe info.
> * In this issue:
> HELP!!
> Re: Vacuum Pump experiment
> 200 TQ computer upgrade
> no audi content here
> Re: 100tw long-term
> Re: Nixie tubes (was Re: Audi TDI)
> RE: Power Plant for Volvo 850 Turbo
> Re: rebadged Audi?
> RE: MAJOR DECISION
> Re: Financing/Leasing sources
> Oppen Poem (NO AUDI CONTENT)
> Bentley manual wanted
> Fuel Mixture/idling speed
> Re: 1/43 Scale Audis
> Re: Power Plant for Volvo 850 Turbo
> Re: Wheel interchangeability
> Ouch - that hurt ....
> Re: GATHERING: Northern Iowa
> Re: Audi TDI
> Re: Audi's and fellow listers in Geneva?
> Loud Fan
> Re: Ouch - that hurt ....
> Poor Audi Parts Support for 90csq/A4
> fog light pinout
> RE: Decision Continued woe or let it go?(long)
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: ScottyCBoy@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:54:00 -0500
> Subject: HELP!!
>
> Help!! Wondering if anyone out there has the part numbers and specs for all
> the sensors on the water outlet of a 1988 5000 TQ?? Any help would be
> greatly appreciated...
>
> SCott
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: ScottyCBoy@aol.com
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:53:33 -0500
> Subject: Re: Vacuum Pump experiment
>
> Brendan,
>
> I stay up late at night wondering the same question as yourself. The
> engine produces plenty of vacuum by itself without the pump...( that is why
> the brakes feel normal when the engine is on and the pump disconnected... But
> try to stomp on the brakes with the engine at full throttle.. The brake pedal
> will start to become hard as a rock... As to why it's there?? Overkill I
> suppose.. The only Audi's that needed it were the early turbos. With the
> turbo spooled up and the brakes on the boost from the turbo would push the
> pedal up. You have to work double time to stop.. Of course the designers
> thought that normal people would have their foot off of the gas when
> stopping...
>
> SCott
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Jonathan L. Boyer" <jb_ms@servtech.com>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:00:15 -0800
> Subject: 200 TQ computer upgrade
>
> I'm looking for feedback from anyone who has tried either Total Audi
> Performance of Intended Accelleration computer and boost upgrades on a
> 200tq fitted with the 10 valve engine. Also: any advice on wheel
> upgrades? I hear that the 16" units from an A4 will fit, and look good
> too. Any help much appreciated!
>
> Thanks
> Jon
> Jon:
I had Ned Richie's computer upgrade on my 89 200TQ and was very happy
with the increase in power, particularly in the 3500 - 7000 RPM range.
It increased the boost pressure from 1.2 to 1.7 bar. I think TAPs
computer upgrade does the same thing for less $$$ (about $300 less).
However, Ned always takes the time to answer any questions you may have.
I have no advice on the wheels but do have on suspension. I replaced
my original suspension with the Sachs Sporting (dampers and springs) and
was very impressed with the results -- lowered the car a bit, stiffened
the suspension but still maintained a comfortable ride. I bought this
kit from Ron's Parts in Canada.
Tim
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Lee Levitt <wheelman@shore.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:16:55 -0500
> Subject: no audi content here
>
> One of our esteemed list members wrote:
>
> (paraphrasing)
>
> solo ipsum dolores mi cabesa bmw spinnum quattro no spinnum etc etc
> - - --
> Sincerely,
>
> John Smith
>
> (/paraphrasing)
>
> Doncha wonder about sig files where "sincerely" is hardcoded?
>
> ;-)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lee
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Bill" <billfree@interlynx.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:22:01 -0500
> Subject: Re: 100tw long-term
>
> Tom
> If you want to drive a Audi 500,000 KM it does not have to be
> expensive,you must just maintain it , I have put 466,000 KM on my 5000CDTQ
> Avent. And I am proud of it and still going strong and looooooooking
> good.
> Regards Bill
> Ontario, Canada.
>
> - ----------
> > From: Tom Nas, DTP Direct bv <tnas@dtpdirect.nl>
> > To: quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> > Subject: 100tw long-term
> > Date: November 21, 1996 7:28 AM
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Some time ago I mentioned a feature in a Dutch magazine about a 1987
> Audi
> > 100tw, run as a company car with a difference. The objective of the guy
> > running this car was to take it up to 500K km (315K miles) because 'it
> was
> > too good to discard'. As the guy's company paid for everything, he had
> it
> > dealer serviced at astonishing cost.
> > So, for all of you irritated by high running costs and incompetent
> dealers,
> > I've translated this article and added the amounts paid. Reading this
> will
> > make you feel sorry for whoever's paying for all this and feel good
> about
> > your own bills.
> > Anyone needing their spirits lifted just drop me a line and I'll mail it
> to you.
> >
> > Also a nice indication of what can go wrong with these cars.
> >
> > Bye,
> >
> > Tom.
> >
> > PS I saw pictures of the new '97 Passat wagon recently. This is a
> > utilitarian square-back wagon that still manages to look nice!
> >
> > _______________________________________________________________________> > Tom W. Nas, graphic design tnas@dtpdirect.nl
> > DTP Direct bv Voice +31 (55) 5 790 799
> > Apeldoorn, the Netherlands Fax +31 (55) 5 790 125
> >
> > If the odds are a million to one against something occuring,
> > chances are 50-50 it will.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Paul Kendall/jfrank/us <Paul_Kendall@jfrank.COM>
> Date: 21 Nov 96 18:52:01
> Subject: Re: Nixie tubes (was Re: Audi TDI)
>
> From: dan_masi@MENTORG.COM (Dan Masi)
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 96 16:02:49 EST
> Subject: Re: Nixie tubes (was Re: Audi TDI)
>
> On Nov 21 Dan Masi wrote:
>
> >> Oh, and they're all orange ...
>
> > Now, wait just a durned minute. I could swear I used to
> > play around with some blue nixie tubes. No?
>
> The blue ones were florescent tubes. Very pretty.
>
> - --Paul
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: JP <palmerj@earthlink.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:07:28 -0600
> Subject: RE: Power Plant for Volvo 850 Turbo
>
> 20 valves, 5 cyls and a turbo is all it shares with Audi. It even sets
> in the car the wrong way.
> Just a copy cat... Like some acuras.
> But wasnt that engine 'tuned' with Porsche?
>
> Jason Palmer
> 88 5Ksquattro
> Dallas
>
> - ------------------------------
> Was at the local Audi dealer yesterday and saw a used 850 Volvo turbo on
> the lot. In the conversation the service manager stated that the power
> plant for that pocket roket was Audi. Can anyone shed some technical
> light on this? I have brother in-law in San Francisco who is in love
> with his old 850 turbo and is considering the new 850R. I'd love to be
> able to tell him that the power plant is Audi since he traded away from
> Audi to get to the Volvo!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: David & Jane Blanchard <djblanch@best.com>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:15:41 -0800
> Subject: Re: rebadged Audi?
>
> > By the way I saw a picture of the Chinese made Audi. . .it too had
> > chrome grills. . .no 4 rings on the nose either.
>
> I was in China in July. About 5% of the Audis (of which 99% were black)
> did not show Audi markings. They showed something else that sorta
> looked like some phonybaloney government markings. BTW most of the
> ominous black Audis were driven by pushy government toadies.
>
> DavidOB
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: SOP8920@Siena.edu
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:18:34 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: RE: MAJOR DECISION
>
> Michael Eck wrote:
> >At what point would you give up your Quattro?
>
> >Reason for question: 86 5KCSTQ, 180K, spending big bucks to keep it
> >running, unsure what the future holds, but love the car madly.
>
> When Dad says.. Okay, I miss my car. Give it BACK.
>
> "What's that dad?... CHRHEWIHHRRRR (Static noise)... I think we have a bad
> connection.. .. PRANK CALLER! PRANK CALLER!"
>
> :)
>
> -Osman Parvez
> 89 200q (148K miles)
> Siena College
> Albany NY
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: yzin28 <yzin28@netaxis.com>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:46:30 -0500
> Subject: Re: Financing/Leasing sources
>
> New Concepts Leasing -- (201) 299-6900
>
> They say they'll work anywhere in the US, and tailor a lease to suit
> your individual needs.
>
> We've dealt with them now for 1 1/2 years. They recently arranged a
> lease for us on an S6 wagon (private seller) and a new A4 (dealer -
> ugh).
>
> HTH
>
> Wendy
>
> '97 A4Q
> '95.5 S6 wagon
> '86 4KQ
>
> Scott Bermes wrote:
> >
> > You wrote:
> > >
> > >I know of a leasing company who will work with cars from private
> > >sellers New Concepts Leasing.
> >
> > Could you give me that number. Thanks a lot.
> >
> > Scott
> > 89 200tqw
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: SOP8920@Siena.edu
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:49:28 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Oppen Poem (NO AUDI CONTENT)
>
> Hey all,
> I'm sitting here at my desk, reading this book of poetry by George Oppen.
> I have a paper due on it before Turkey break.
> Anyway, I came across this which I thought I would share.
> - --------------------------------------------------------
> >From "Image of the Engine"
> 1
> Likely as not a ruined head gasket
> Spitting at every power stroke, if not a crank shaft
> Bearing knocking at the roots of the thing like a pile-driver:
> A machine involved with itself, a concentrated
> Hot lump of a machine
> Geared in the loose mechanics of the world with the valves
> jumping
> And the heavy frenzy of the pistons. When the thing stops,
> Is stopped, with the last slow cough
> In the manifold, the flywheel blundering
> Against compression, stopping, finally
> Stopped, compression leaking
> >From the idle cylinders will one imagine
> Then because he can imagine
> That squeezed from the cooling steel
> There hovers in that moment, wraith-like and like a plume
> of steam, an aftermath,
> A still and quiet angel of knowledge and of comprehension.
> - -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Hmm.. sounds like he's frustrated with his Audi, no?
> :)
> -Osman Parvez
> 89 200q (148K miles)
> Siena College
> Albany NY
>
> p.s. surry about the non-audi content.... again.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Randy Bindrup <bindy@azstarnet.com>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:03:13 -0700
> Subject: Bentley manual wanted
>
> I was wondering if anyone out there has a used Bentley manual for sale,
> or knows of a good source for a new one that would cover a '87 5kcstq.
>
> Thanks,
> Randy Bindrup
> Tucson, AZ
>
> 87 5kcstq 139k (just broke-in)
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Lino M. Valadas" <valadasl@osha.igs.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 23:33:34 -0500
> Subject: Fuel Mixture/idling speed
>
> Hi All,
>
> I'm looking for help adjusting the fuel mixture and hopefully the idling
> speed.
> I have an 86 5ktqw.
> The plug on the mixture adjustment screw is no longer there, and the screw
> goes out of adjustment by itself. I can tell because the idling speed goes
> up; when I check the screw, I can see it has moved (I had it marked). So
> I turn it clockwise (tightening it) and I bring the idling down. I've been
> playing this game for months, and I'm getting tired of it.
> My questions are:
>
> 1. Is there a manual procedure to adjust the fuel/air mix? Haynes manual
> is totally useless here, it tells you to take the car to the dealer.
>
> 2. Does anybody know of a way to stop the screw from moving? Do I have to
> get a new plug from the dealer? I don't want to seal the screw until I
> get the mixture right of course.
>
> 3. I've been thinking of buying an O2 gauge (bar graph). Would this help
> adjusting the mixture? Do I have to wait for the gauge to make the
> adjustment.
>
> My fuel consumption has gone up substantially lately and I think its
> related to my adjusting the screw blindly.
>
> Any input would be appreciated.
>
> TIA
> Lino
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: steve powers <spowers@spdg.COM>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:40:20 -0700
> Subject: Re: 1/43 Scale Audis
>
> Ricardo graciously offers:
> >
> > I love building models, and collecting 1/43" scale models of my favorite
> > cars and especially of the cars I have owned. I just starting looking into
> > finding an A4 for my collection cause there is 1.8t in my future. I went
> > to my favorite net site for this stuff (www.ewacars.com) and this is what I
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> for anyone who wants to include a URL in an email message: Please format
> it
> with http://, e.g. the above should be http://www.ewacars.com
>
> why?
>
> because with any intelligent web-enabled emailer, you automatically
> launch
> your favorite browser. if not, you've gotta paste the _partial_ URL into
> a dialog box.
>
> it's just a friendlier thing to do... (we're all friends here, right?)
>
> thanks!
>
> steve powers
> spowers@spdg.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: steve powers <spowers@spdg.COM>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 20:44:36 -0700
> Subject: Re: Power Plant for Volvo 850 Turbo
>
> Paul asks:
> >
> > Was at the local Audi dealer yesterday and saw a used 850 Volvo turbo on the
> > lot. In the conversation the service manager stated that the power plant for
> > that pocket roket was Audi. Can anyone shed some technical light on this? I have
> > brother in-law in San Francisco who is in love with his old 850 turbo and is
> > considering the new 850R. I'd love to be able to tell him that the power plant
> > is Audi since he traded away from Audi to get to the Volvo!
>
> this subject was discussed some months back. for the entirety of the
> discussion
> please check the archives via the web page...
>
> steve powers
> spowers@spdg.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Anthony K.B. Chan" <chan@seattleu.edu>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 21:48:44 -0800 (PST)
> Subject: Re: Wheel interchangeability
>
> If you have the wrong offset it's going to create alot of problems even
> though the bolt pattern is the same. Wrong offset can create handling
> problem, wears out wheel bearing because of the load distribution is
> changed from the way it was originally design with the original wheel
> offset. Wrong Offset may also make you tires/wheels rub the tie-rod
> especially on the 5000/100/200 model where the tie-rod and steering arm has
> about 10-12mm clearance from the inner edge of the rim/wheel(I owned an
> 85' 5000s prior to my current 92' 100 V6 thus I know the clearance between
> the tie-rod and inner rim edge is critical). Rear fender may rub the tires,
> Front wheels may rub the wheel well when turning if the offset is incorrect.
>
> I think correct offset, bolt pattern and hubcentricity are all important
> for a correct wheel fitting.
>
> Anthony Chan, First Hill, Seattle, WA, USA.
> chan@seattleu.edu
> 92' 100 V6 Tornado Red.
>
> On Thu, 21 Nov 1996, Trisha Bethen wrote:
>
> > Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 19:03:11 -0500 (EST)
> > From: Trisha Bethen <trishab@mv.mv.com>
> > To: David Conner <conner@cfm.ohio-state.edu>
> > Cc: quattro@coimbra.ans.net
> > Subject: Re: Wheel interchangeability
> >
> > These are all interchangeable if they are the same bolt pattern. We have
> > done it. Hope this helps.
> >
> > Trish
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Andrew Fletcher <FLETCHA@citec.qld.gov.au>
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 16:27:27 +1000
> Subject: Ouch - that hurt ....
>
> Hi all,
>
> Just received the quote from our Smash Repairs Shop. That little rear ding
> resulting from a failed handbrake.. well here is the quote :
>
> Labour Charge 42.55 hours = $2202.60 AUS
> Parts
> List Price Tax Total
> O/S/R QTR Panel 1865.39 + 335.77 = 2201.16
> Beaver Panel 1421.95 + 255.95 = 1677.90
> Rear Bumper Cover 1687.71 + 303.79 = 1991.50
> Rear Bumper Cover
> O/S Reflector 20.77 + 3.74 = 24.51
> Rear Bumper
> Reinforcement 503.09 + 90.56 = 593.65
> Rear Bumper
> Surround 3629.78 + 653.36 = 4283.14
> O/S Taillight Assy 318.97 + 57.41 = 376.38
> Boot Lid 1985.27 + 357.35 = 2342.62
> Boot Lid Garnish
> Mould (Coupe) 574.43 + 103.40 = 677.83
> O/S/R QTR Vent 40.47 + 7.28 = 47.75
> Misc = 93
>
> Total Parts $14309.44 (AUS)
>
> Ouch, thats a total of $16512.04, we only paid $23,000 (AUS) for the car.
> Plus Audi identifies the car as a 10/81 not '82 as the registration shows.
>
> regards
> Fletch
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Meron" <phwomp@cosmoslink.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:32:09 -0800
> Subject: Re: GATHERING: Northern Iowa
>
> Is clear lake the city where Polaris has a factory?
> Avi Meron
> 86 5Kcstq
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Meron" <phwomp@cosmoslink.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:45:07 -0800
> Subject: Re: Audi TDI
>
> Arun,
> If I remember correctly I saw a quattro review in the Audi German page
> which was a TDI, a while back, I can't read German but my boy can
> (somewhat) and translated some, very interesting.
> Avi Meron
> 86 5Kcstq
> If she had wings she would fly!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Meron" <phwomp@cosmoslink.net>
> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:55:10 -0800
> Subject: Re: Audi's and fellow listers in Geneva?
>
> Just go and take a look at the prices, you will miss us real
> quick!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> In July when I was in Berlin I almost fainted after seeing the prices of
> Audis (I don't faint easily). Also my friend, Switzerland in known through
> Europe as one of the most expansive countries, even the dam chocolate is
> not cheep let alone Audis and Rolexes.
> Good luck from all of us.
> Avi Meron
> 86 5Kcstq
> If she had wings she would fly!
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: DriverV8@aol.com
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 02:52:12 -0500
> Subject: Loud Fan
>
> In a message dated 96-11-14 12:33:15 EST, you write:
>
> >
> >Has anyone else encountered this? Is there a quick fix for this? Can it
> >be fixed by lubricating the fan? Where is the fan?
> >
> >TIA
> >Jeb Soult
> >Emma@Penn.com
> >
> >
>
> Jeb, have you considered that a mouse or other rodent has crawled up into
> your heater fan area? Then, after you turned on the fan the first time, the
> poor fuzzball was pulverized, causing the fan to get a little loopy, and
> therefore, loud?
> Do you live in a rural area? Is the car in a garage or outside?
> I have personal experience in this area.
> Let me know what happened.
> Scott
> DriverV8@aol.com
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: John Firkins <firkins@eis.net.au>
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 18:33:13 +1000
> Subject: Re: Ouch - that hurt ....
>
> G'day Fletch & all,
> >
> >Just received the quote from our Smash Repairs Shop. That little rear ding
> >resulting from a failed handbrake.. well here is the quote :
>
> Little rear ding eh? That a bit like describing the damage to my 85 as
> "paint needs attention" (it was a write off!) I went & saw the damage and
> couldnt believe my eyes. It looks more like our friend Fletch got too
> enthusiastic with the new toy & departed into an immovable object. I've
> never seen a little ding that resulted in the roof being distorted
> before.
>
> Hope the insurance company is friendly
>
> Cheers
> John Firkins
> Brisbane (home of the bent red Ur-qs)
> Australia
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: quk@sievers.com (Phil Payne)
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:24:28 GMT
> Subject: Poor Audi Parts Support for 90csq/A4
>
> In message <3293E241.1A98@ix.netcom.com> siegfried writes:
>
> > I hate to post this buzzkill, but I'm very disappointed with the Audi
> > North American performance in terms of getting me much needed parts for
> > my 94 90csq.
>
> > While the cars are definitely there, I think Audi has a long way to go
> > in terms of dealer and factory support in comparison with its rivals.
>
> I think you have a local issue. Even parts for very low volume and exotic cars
> are relatively easy to get here. They're not always cheap ...
>
> - --
> Phil Payne
> phil@sievers.com
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: quk@sievers.com (Phil Payne)
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 1996 09:45:29 GMT
> Subject: fog light pinout
>
> In message <199611212126.AA19341@interlock.ans.net> Dan Simoes writes:
>
> > On a stock 84 4ksq fog light switch, can you identify the
> > following? (l to r)
> >
> > 31
> > 86N
> > 75h
> > 58a
> > 55S
> >
> > one is ground, one is switch light, one is power from
> > the parking lights, one is power out and the other?
>
> A combined front/rear switch - two stage?
>
> 31 is ground for switch illumination
> 86 is switched power out to front fog lights
> 58 is power for lights in to switch
> 55 is power for rear fog light
> 75 (this is a guess) power in to switch illumination
>
> - --
> Phil Payne
> phil@sievers.com
> Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club
>
> ------------------------------
>
> From: "Colin Barfoot" <Colin_Barfoot@msn.com>
> Date: Fri, 22 Nov 96 23:17:31 UT
> Subject: RE: Decision Continued woe or let it go?(long)
>
> Michael,
> I also have to give this thought frequently!
> I bought my 86 5000 CD Quattro in 1990 with 126k on it from the dealership
> owner who had spend over $4kin th previous year fixing it. Fortuneately I
> insisted on a used car warrantee. I'm probably the only one who ever used it
> to the $5k limit ($5k warantee +$3.5k me) included things like power steering
> rack +pumps, rear diff rebuild, AC components, Alternator, starter,brakes both
> rear calipers 2x, etc,,, at that time I thought I'd keep it until the 3yr
> warantee expired.
> After replacing all that I thought I must have taken care of wear out
> components, and was right so over the next 2 years, it only cost 1.5-2k/yr for
> exhaust,another steering rack, pump rebuild, brakes -rear caliper rebuild
> rotors etc. This was great! Though after the motor mount wore through the
> $500 AC return line for the seond time I sacrificed the A/C.
> This year $3k for broken front springs, rear shocks, front and rear rotors,
> suspension bushings, brake lines. The radio is out of service.T least withthe
> susoension I got 4 H&R plus Boge turbo front, hydraulic rear a new sport
> suspension (though I would have liked to try A STEADI system $$$).
> My thinking has been ...
> 1. There is nothing out there new that could replace it, size, quattro, perf,
> handling, gas mileage, luxury for less than $50K cdn. i.e a new S6, or perhaps
> 30v A6, the new Passat perhaps ($38k). Finance charges and depreciation for a
> new one will quickly reach my annual maintenance expenditures.
> 2. I've only get 290,000 km on mine and it should be good for another 200k km
> or so.
> 3. Rust protection...Audi's don't rust as long as you keep them touched up, I
> had to sell my '83 GTI with 330,000km, because the floor, and front frame,
> dooor, rear hath rust was getting so bad.
> 4. Another used Quattro (very few around) could easily go through an $8k
> maintenance year.
> 5. I haven't fully explored the performance yet, Scrapnel Knobben (r) on the
> way.
> 6. This is my tent trailer pulling car and my kids, 6,3 and 5 wks will likly
> enjoy it for another 10 yrs or so.
> 7.4WD Ski Car.
> 8. Unstoppable car pool car. One buddy can't walk up his glacier of a driveway
> and keeps his cars at the top all winter but I pick him up at the door. I
> also get home 1/2 hr faster, driving in the 6"snow passing those single file
> in the track.
> 9. I love to drive my car... almost as fun as my 90 Corrado.
> 10. The Corrado won't take the whole family anymore.
> 11. When the Corrado was on PEI (inlaws) came first in class in the Autocross.
> 12. So far I have been blessed witg sufficint incometo afford the repairs and
> a wife understanding enough, she likes the car too.... but would probably
> settle for a Honda or Toyota.
> 13. I Feel safe with my family in adverse conditions.
> 14. buy most parts from the US aftermarket save > 30% on cost.
> 15. Quattro list yeah!!
> 16. Kanc/indy ... someday.
> I hope this helps
> Colin
> 86 5000CD Quattro(TQ) 290,000 km
> 90 Corrado 115,000 km
>
> From: Michael Eck <meck@ptd.net>
> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 1996 19:33:54 -0800
> Subject: MAJOR DECISION
>
> Ok Q-Listers, The Big Question:
>
> At what point would you give up your Quattro?
>
> Reason for question: 86 5KCSTQ, 180K, spending big bucks to keep it
> running, unsure what the future holds, but love the car madly.
>
> Michael Eck
> 86 5KCSTQ
> 88 GTI 16V
>
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