In message <961205095406_1521011994@emout06.mail.aol.com> STEADIRIC@aol.com writes: > The Ashtray in a 5K holds $17 in quaters...... Exactly. You _have_ to fill it or else it rattles? -- Phil Payne phil@sievers.com Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club