In message <961217220656_1288598995@emout13.mail.aol.com> Porsray@aol.com writes: > (My appreciation to the Brit who announced the Grand Prix races on ESPN > for years for coming up with this definition - wish I could remember his > name)!! Murray Walker? -- Phil Payne phil@sievers.com Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club