Peter SEZ... >Oh, and don't get me wrong about the A8: I'd take one if I could have a >stick or Tiptronic, but that's not going to happen (and not at $65,000 >either). SNIP! Just saw a 4.2Q at the Auto show here in Ottawa CDN $93k and change. A4 was $31k plus Q option was $2640 sob, snif Thank you for the used market... Steve Bigelow Ottawa 84 5ks