CS doesn't mean 5cyl... was:1986 4000csq questions and such

[VINCELYONS@aol.com]

In a message dated 97-02-21 13:03:35 EST, you write:

<< The 86 4000 CS did not have 5k wheels, it had 4kQ wheels.  The difference 
 being a 4x108 mm bolt pattern rather than the standard 4k using a 4x100 mm 
 bolt pattern.  This was due to the 4 wheel disc brakes, which Audi used the 
 parts from the 4kQ to accomplish.>>

I 'm not at work so I can't check it right now,  but... I believe you to be
wrong 
about quattro stuff being used for the rear disc brakes on a 4kCS , I think
 it was more of a Coupe GT thing as the Quattro in the back isn't just the
ol'  twist 'em up torsion axle beam, it's CV's and McPhearson struts &
control arms, tie rods & ball joints and stuff.

The 4kCS uses 443-601-025A-V7T if I recall corectly, which was the 
standard wheel used on the 5ks naturally aspirated car since 84...  I'm
doing it from memory. But, this stuff is off the point... The original lists
that I responded to suggested that S and CS somehow related to engine choice
and that's simply not the case.  

<<
 According to the local dealer, the 87 4kQ CS and 5kQ were no different than 
 the S model, the CS being nothing more than a lame attempt to make people 
 believe there was a difference.  Another one of Audi's great marketing 
 strategies! >>

I being your un-local dealer parts guy kinda concur about the diference.  The
decklid plates on 's' were chrome fininsh and on 'cs'  they were brushed, or
was it the other way around.  I think the CS was brused which has since been 
discontinued as a service part and is superseded to the chrome versions.  But
it seams every time I encounter a CS it's got a few more of the few options
that were available USA ... ie: I don't recall ever seeing a CS without a
sunroof
and the 5000CS is certainly a bit more dressy than the 5000E  ( plastic whell
covers, steel wheels, unlit visors ).  

Vince Lyons


I'll thank you to not mention marketing strategies to me if you please. You
see 
I served in the front line trenches way back then.  I still wear the scars,
mentally and financially from the demonic possesion known to provide the
little 2.3 with several thousand horespower, more than  the brakes could ever
hope 
to control and hold back.  My employer at that time offered $100,000.00 to
anyone who could come to our dealership and make any Audi on our lot
accelerate uncontrolably.  Brock Yates managed to print a little ink about
it.  I do not recall anyone ever having taken him up on the chalange.

Vince Lyons