In message <199704031430.IAA15711@dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com> philby@ix.netcom.com (Phil Coppin) writes: > And not forgetting the 850cc fire engine/water pump mill in the > infamous rear engined Hillman (L)Imp..... And the crying shame is that no one will believe you. (It was used in fork lift trucks, too.) -- Phil Payne phil@sievers.com Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club