Phil, Yup, I agree with you that it should be the personal choice of the idiot not to use the seat belt.....just dont ask me to subsidize the son of a b*&@#!% insurance.... :-( " Make it idiot-proof and someone will build a better idiot " Anon. Phil C. 96 A4q 2.8 slushbox (its the wifes but I love it) with 200mph baggies.