In a message dated 97-08-22 09:51:06 EDT, you write: << HEY: DIDN'T THIS CAR ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER RIPP AUTO'S HAVE MELT DOWNS AT WATKINS GLEN THIS YEAR??????? ONE WOULD BE COINCIDENCE, BUT ALL MAKES YOU WONDER. JUST CALLIN' EM AS I SEE EM !! - NICK >> Nick, aka Ross's alter ego. Isn't this how the first Ross bashing thread started? Carter J