In message <UPMAIL13.199709222215160482@classic.msn.com> "Ian J Haseltine" writes: > I hope that you bought a suitable car for him to use - I believe that all 17 > year old lads should be made to drive 10 year old 1 litre Ford Fiestas - in > beige. Precisely what we are currently looking for. (Though I had set my heart on lime green.) -- Phil Payne Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club