In message <344FFC8D.4BCD6200@sni.net> Al Feldman writes: > Anyway, if anyone needs to teach someone how to drive a standard > transmission, ... LOL. In one post I hear amusement about Haynes' explanation of "torch" - and in the next someone describing the difficulties of coming to terms with manual transmissions ... -- Phil Payne Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club