In message <34DB5CAA.EB6AE3FC@nh.ultranet.com> Huw Powell writes: > > something akin to: "How far below the rearview mirror of my '87 urq should > > I dangle the fuzzy dice?" > > about 6-8" works well IMO that's too much. I have them hung right up close. -- Phil Payne Committee Member, UK Audi [ur-]quattro Owners Club