I was wrong, the konis that i would be getting included with the car are yellows...i dont know what the difference is between them and the reds....can someone please explain? thanks in advance... later Michael Sheridan Williams My new one: 1985 4000 S Quattro 175,000+ miles, and going like a new car Well, went like a new car.....right into a guard rail :o( http://members.aol.com/daserde2