Re: NO Clutch Moves - Thanks anyway

[QSHIPQ <QSHIPQ@aol.com>]

In a message dated 98-03-03 16:28:18 EST, you write:

>qualude taken - let's all drive and enjoy our cars...they are still OK
 >Torsen or no Torsen.
no argument from me.  Only sharing some of the dark side with some Jedi
Knights of Torsens
 
 
 >Jouko
 
 >ps.  The corrected method of correction from extreme oversteer (over 90 deg)
 >worked for me after a lot of practice today.  Seems drastic - but if you try
 >it - HAVE LOTS OF CLEAR RUNOFF - you will be using it for practice.  The
> only dilemma seems to be the increasing radius four wheel drift that is
> generated...
  >>
OR you hit a patch of pavement OR a rut OR dopped off the snow pavement into
gravel (list is long), and since you have no spinning wheel, you flip the car
on it's roof...  Ask some of the rallye guys, Jouko.  When I went to Rally
school, we were taught to keep wheels spinning as you "drifted".  Why, because
you chances of flipping the car were reduced to almost nil (spinning wheels
don't dig).  Your manuever here, is a form of a bail.  If things get all out
of whack, dump the clutch.  By physics, you haven't changed the character of
the car for acceleration, you just opted not to use the brake.  As soon as you
get back on the gas, within a 1/4 driveshaft rotation, you will have the same
'problem' you encounted before, only now, if your slip angle is high enough,
you have to reestablish forward rotation all together.  If you are more than
90 degrees, dumping the clutch will let the rear axle begin to rotate in
REVERSE, and you could easily stall the car trying to reestablish forward
rotation.   Sound risky?

I would never advocate a sliding car to have anything but throttle.  To do
otherwise is risking a hood roll, period.  Does it work?  I suppose you could
argue that.  I can argue that you better be real sure of what is under those
tires before you go ceasing forward rotation all together.  A rut is all it
takes, btst.

HTH

Scott